Old, but interesting topic

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Sammy writes:

According to you since the whole thing should have been automated, no
intervention should have been necessary. The flight should have
autolanded safely.

Anyone who knows how the automation works would know why the Helios
flight would not land safely on its own.


I know how it works (I've flown 73's in the past, BTW) and I know why it
crashed and I alsop know you';re talking straight out of your ass.

You can dream about the fateful day when you save a flight all you want,
but the fact is you are the last person a pilot trying to talk down an
airliner with a stricken crew would want on the other end of the
headset.

But for comedy value, I'd just love to see you stand up whne the cabin
crew asks "Is there anyone on board who can fly a plane?"

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Bertie

"Kev" wrote in
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On Mar 30, 2:06 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote
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The Helios flight crashed because nobody could get into the cockpit
until the engines ran out of fuel

No, it didn't, moron..

No, it didn't what, Bertie? Really, if you're going to argue, try to
state your case instead of just flapping your gums.

That wasn't an argument fjukkhead.


Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote in
news
Sammy writes:

You tell me. You're making the claim that it's good enough. If you're
wrong and people were to do what you say people would die.

If a non-pilot attempts to fly by hand because he's afraid the ILS
isn't precise enough, the likelihood of a crash is much greater.

A non pilot wouldn't know what an ils is djikkkwad.


Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Iain Smith writes:

Not true. One of the longest running jet engines in service on a
commercial airliner was a CFM56 attached to the port wing of an
easyJet Boeing 737 a couple of years ago which had clocked up about
86,000 hours and at that point had never been removed from the wing.
However, that was acknowledged to be an exception by a large margin.

What does that have to do with MTBF?


At least as much as anything you've ever said, wannabe boi.


bertie

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Sammy writes:

You seem to have some detailed information about this incident.
Please cite your references so we can all argue based on the same
facts.

Actually, just about every news report gave most of the details that
I've already provided. However, I've also read much of the final
report by the AAIASB, which does contain more detail.

Not that oyu understood any of it.


Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:


That's rubbish. You said the FMC is programmed from the start
(Incorrect, the approach is usually input en-route, but never mind).
The approach can be entered into the FMC at any time.

No, it can't, fjukktard


Bertie

Well actually it can, even before take off

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

FMCs aren't programmed for approaches period, you moron


Bertie

Well yes they are.

Flydive wrote in :

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

FMCs aren't programmed for approaches period, you moron


Bertie

Well yes they are.


Uh, no they're not. Only sids and stars, unless you mean an RNAV app.
Airplane still uses the navaids intended for the appp.



Bertie

Flydive wrote in :

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:


That's rubbish. You said the FMC is programmed from the start
(Incorrect, the approach is usually input en-route, but never
mind).
The approach can be entered into the FMC at any time.

No, it can't, fjukktard


Bertie

Well actually it can, even before take off

Can't be entered at all. Now way anything flying will do an ILS all by
it's lonesomes from takeoff just by using the FMC.


Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Flydive wrote in :

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
FMCs aren't programmed for approaches period, you moron


Bertie
Well yes they are.


Uh, no they're not. Only sids and stars, unless you mean an RNAV app.
Airplane still uses the navaids intended for the appp.



Bertie

Or NDB, VOR, GPS.......(and both laterally and vertically)

Of course ILS are still flown using navaids, but all others no.

And above it was not specified you were talking only about ILS