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"Newps" wrote in message
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Happened here in Montana. They weren't drunk and they both lived.
Backseat passenger was the shooter. Problem was he was using a semi
automatic shotgun. He started to drop the gun and started reaching for
it. Before he knows it 3-4 shots ring out. He about blew the wing off
the plane. The damage caused the plane to be uncontrollable. They
started spinng down. Luckily they were only a couple hundred feet in the
air. Big crash. Both guys hurt but survive. Entire operation perfectly
legal. That's how we hunt coyotes here in the West. The USDA also hunts
coyotes with Cubs and helicopters as well as private parties.

In all the hunts I'm aware of in Oklahoma, the shooters were always on the
ground. The pilot usually flew alone and was just the spotter or tried to
drive the cyotes to the shooters.

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"Maxwell" wrote:

"Newps" wrote in message
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Happened here in Montana. They weren't drunk and they both lived.
Backseat passenger was the shooter. Problem was he was using a semi
automatic shotgun. He started to drop the gun and started reaching for
it. Before he knows it 3-4 shots ring out. He about blew the wing off
the plane. The damage caused the plane to be uncontrollable. They
started spinng down. Luckily they were only a couple hundred feet in the
air. Big crash. Both guys hurt but survive. Entire operation perfectly
legal. That's how we hunt coyotes here in the West. The USDA also hunts
coyotes with Cubs and helicopters as well as private parties.

In all the hunts I'm aware of in Oklahoma, the shooters were always on the
ground. The pilot usually flew alone and was just the spotter or tried to
drive the cyotes to the shooters.

When I was growing up in Illinios in the 40s and 50s, people used to
hunt foxes from Cubs in the winter. I recall an article about a pair
that bagged over 100 in about a month.

There was another case where the shooter (shotgun) aimed at a fox and
blew the tip off the prop. That made for an immediate forced landing!

Newps wrote:

Margy Natalie wrote:
As I recall these idiots were trying to shoot an eagle. IMHO they
deserved to go down. They also had picked up the aircraft at one
airport, flown to another airport to pick up their buddies and the
beer, then went flying...


You haven't recalled one thing right so far. There was no alcohol, no
other people involved. And hunting eagles from a plane? That doesn't
even make sense. Hunting coyotes from aircraft is an everyday event out
here.

Nope, she has it dead on, except that it was a hawk instead of an eagle.
The whole story is documented in the book "They Called It Pilot Error"
by Robert L. Cohn. The pilot was a former student pilot who had quit
training 10 months earlier and rented a Skywagon by forging a logbook.
He also had had his driver's license suspended for his third DUI. He
then flew to another field where he picked up three buddies, a case of
beer, and four shotguns. Then they flew to a state park where they shot
at birds from the air until the accident.

"Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message
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"Maxwell" wrote:

"Newps" wrote in message
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Happened here in Montana. They weren't drunk and they both lived.
Backseat passenger was the shooter. Problem was he was using a semi
automatic shotgun. He started to drop the gun and started reaching for
it. Before he knows it 3-4 shots ring out. He about blew the wing off
the plane. The damage caused the plane to be uncontrollable. They
started spinng down. Luckily they were only a couple hundred feet in
the
air. Big crash. Both guys hurt but survive. Entire operation
perfectly
legal. That's how we hunt coyotes here in the West. The USDA also
hunts
coyotes with Cubs and helicopters as well as private parties.

In all the hunts I'm aware of in Oklahoma, the shooters were always on
the
ground. The pilot usually flew alone and was just the spotter or tried to
drive the cyotes to the shooters.

When I was growing up in Illinios in the 40s and 50s, people used to
hunt foxes from Cubs in the winter. I recall an article about a pair
that bagged over 100 in about a month.

There was another case where the shooter (shotgun) aimed at a fox and
blew the tip off the prop. That made for an immediate forced landing!

I bet he never heard the end of that one! I think I would just have to find
a hole somewhere and crawl in it.

On Apr 19, 4:55 am, Newps wrote:
Margy Natalie wrote:
Remember the story of the drunk flyer, that shot his own plane, while
hunting from the air?

Shot himself right out of the sky, as I remember.

'Course, that could just be another urban legend. g

Not an urban legend. There was a write up of it some aviation book and
the NTSB apparently said something like, if that one guy hadn't lived a
few days and told us what happened we would have NEVER imagined this!

Happened here in Montana. They weren't drunk and they both lived.
Backseat passenger was the shooter. Problem was he was using a semi
automatic shotgun. He started to drop the gun and started reaching for
it. Before he knows it 3-4 shots ring out. He about blew the wing off
the plane. The damage caused the plane to be uncontrollable. They
started spinng down. Luckily they were only a couple hundred feet in
the air. Big crash. Both guys hurt but survive. Entire operation
perfectly legal. That's how we hunt coyotes here in the West. The USDA
also hunts coyotes with Cubs and helicopters as well as private parties.

Huh, you hunt coyotes by shooting your wings off?

-Kees

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Huh, you hunt coyotes by shooting your wings off?


If you are REALLY good, you land on the coyote....

Rich Ahrens wrote:
Newps wrote:

Margy Natalie wrote:
As I recall these idiots were trying to shoot an eagle. IMHO they
deserved to go down. They also had picked up the aircraft at one
airport, flown to another airport to pick up their buddies and the
beer, then went flying...


You haven't recalled one thing right so far. There was no alcohol,
no other people involved. And hunting eagles from a plane? That
doesn't even make sense. Hunting coyotes from aircraft is an
everyday event out here.

Nope, she has it dead on, except that it was a hawk instead of an
eagle. The whole story is documented in the book "They Called It Pilot
Error" by Robert L. Cohn.

Ah - thanks for the source! Sad to say, though, that according to the
reviews of that book on www.amazon.com, Cohn's account may be a work of
fiction. It appears Cohn allegedly states in the forward of that book that
the book is a work of fiction - despite the subtitle claiming the opposite.

Jim Logajan wrote:
Rich Ahrens wrote:
Newps wrote:
Margy Natalie wrote:
As I recall these idiots were trying to shoot an eagle. IMHO they
deserved to go down. They also had picked up the aircraft at one
airport, flown to another airport to pick up their buddies and the
beer, then went flying...

You haven't recalled one thing right so far. There was no alcohol,
no other people involved. And hunting eagles from a plane? That
doesn't even make sense. Hunting coyotes from aircraft is an
everyday event out here.
Nope, she has it dead on, except that it was a hawk instead of an
eagle. The whole story is documented in the book "They Called It Pilot
Error" by Robert L. Cohn.

Ah - thanks for the source! Sad to say, though, that according to the
reviews of that book on www.amazon.com, Cohn's account may be a work of
fiction. It appears Cohn allegedly states in the forward of that book that
the book is a work of fiction - despite the subtitle claiming the opposite.

I have the book at home - I'll have to check out the foreward. It's
certainly sold and promoted as if the events are factual.

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On Apr 19, 4:55 am, Newps wrote:

perfectly legal. That's how we hunt coyotes here in the West. The USDA
also hunts coyotes with Cubs and helicopters as well as private parties.

Huh, you hunt coyotes by shooting your wings off?

Must be tough to get the wings onto the BBQ grill.

Jim Stewart wrote:
Jim Logajan wrote:

Other hunts gone bad:

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...17X00803&key=1


This guy hit his own wake in a 360 and crashed.

The circle is complete.

But that isn't possible.... ...