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What F-102 units were called up for Viet Nam
I want this for a political newsgroup.
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"Scott Peterson" wrote in message ... "Tarver Engineering" wrote: I want this for a political newsgroup. thanks I don't think any were. This plane was strictly an interceptor for shooting down bombers. No guns, no ground attack capability. Absolutely no use in Viet Nam. Adding a political comment, when George W. joined the Texas ANG, he was assigned to an F-102 unit. Some of the comments about that were that it was a very safe unit to join as there was no possibility of overseas assignment. Scott Peterson The things that come to those that wait may be the things left by those who got there first. If I remember correctly the F-102 was not exactly a "safe" aircraft, it was a rather of a challenge to fly and its mission profile in a nuclear exchange was not desirable at all. Harley W. Daugherty |
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The F102 operated out of Tan Son Nhut and also on detachment from Osan,
South Korea i understand.... they were used as point interceptors and f102 chase planes for B52 raids in out of country sorties and sometimes used their IR ball as a 2.75 FFAR aim point for ground attack missions. 1 x F102 was shot down by a Mig in 67 i think. Tarver Engineering wrote: I want this for a political newsgroup. thanks -- |
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"Scott Peterson" wrote in message ... "Tarver Engineering" wrote: I want this for a political newsgroup. thanks I don't think any were. This plane was strictly an interceptor for shooting down bombers. No guns, no ground attack capability. Absolutely no use in Viet Nam. Adding a political comment, when George W. joined the Texas ANG, he was assigned to an F-102 unit. Some of the comments about that were that it was a very safe unit to join as there was no possibility of overseas assignment. Scott Peterson F-102s did indeed serve in SEA and early on too. The 509FIS sent F-102s to Tan Son Nhut on 21 March 1962 under Project "Water Glass" and they remained under Project "Candy Machine". In addition to Tan Son Nhut tey were stationed at Bien Hoa. Some of these deployments were from the unit at Clark. The F-102s also served at Don Muang from 1961-1964. I think they were also at Udorn at one time (but maybe not...it was a long time ago). Since so many F-102 were ANG service in SEA was opened to them on an individual basis under Project "Palace Alert". I did not see the original message (I don't see Tarver messages unless quoted) so I don't know whose ox I'm goring. Tex Houston |
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Scott Peterson wrote: "Tarver Engineering" wrote: I want this for a political newsgroup. thanks I don't think any were. This plane was strictly an interceptor for shooting down bombers. No guns, no ground attack capability. Absolutely no use in Viet Nam. One F-102 was lost over North Vietnam. 82nd FIS flew F-102s out of Bien Hoa in 1968. 509th FIS flew out of Tan Son Nhut and Danang and from Don Muang (Thailand) in 1968. Adding a political comment, when George W. joined the Texas ANG, he was assigned to an F-102 unit. Some of the comments about that were that it was a very safe unit to join as there was no possibility of overseas assignment. |
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I did some searching, at:
http://www.arthurhu.com/index/militry.htm I found this "Greatest Clunkers of Vietnam ----------- F102 - Nothing to shoot down, trials were made of using Falcons against ground targets" http://www.war-stories.com/t_jensen.htm Numerous references to NVA attacks where F-102 alert aircraft were parked. http://www.dposs.com/t_jensen-dab-bush-account-1965.htm also talks about NVA attacks and F102s. There are also some pics available. I do remember that the F102s were deployed to VietName but do not remember what the unit was involved or how long they stayed, not long for sure since there was nothing for them to do. MikeT |
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Hi John
Good timing. I'm presently working on a journal article about F-102 ops in Viet Nam and Thailand code named 'Water Glass' and 'Candy Time'. The following active duty units operated the Convair the F-102A and TF-102's in Viet Nam and Thailand: 64th FIS/405th FW 82nd FIS/51st FW 509th FIS/405th FW Cheers...Chris |
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Scott Peterson wrote in message ...
"Tarver Engineering" wrote: I want this for a political newsgroup. thanks I don't think any were. This plane was strictly an interceptor for shooting down bombers. No guns, no ground attack capability. Absolutely no use in Viet Nam. Wrong. F-102's did serve in both Vietnam and Thailand (which is why every once in a while you see a photo of a Delta Dagger in SEA camo). If you can get a hold of an old National Geographic from that period that covered the war (sorry, can't recall which issue...), you'll note that a photo of Tan Son Nhut (or whatever the spelling was) showed F-102's sitting in sandbagged revetments. I believe three were listed as combat losses, one to a Mig, the remaining two to ground fire, and a few others were lost during VC sapper/rocket attacks on the ground. Served as interceptors, some escort duty, and even ground attack--there was even an experamental program where they went after NVA cooking fires at night with their IR Falcons. They also used their 12 unguided rockets against ground targets. Adding a political comment, when George W. joined the Texas ANG, he was assigned to an F-102 unit. Some of the comments about that were that it was a very safe unit to join as there was no possibility of overseas assignment. Very strange, since the ANG was sending F-102 folks over to SEA during the war on rotations. ISTR that Bush's then-commanding officer once commented that ol' GWB volunteered for that duty, but was not submitted because he lacked suffcient stick time in comparison to the more experienced pilots who did participate. Brooks Scott Peterson The things that come to those that wait may be the things left by those who got there first. |
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"av8r" wrote in message ... Hi John Good timing. I'm presently working on a journal article about F-102 ops in Viet Nam and Thailand code named 'Water Glass' and 'Candy Time'. The following active duty units operated the Convair the F-102A and TF-102's in Viet Nam and Thailand: 64th FIS/405th FW 82nd FIS/51st FW 509th FIS/405th FW Just out of curiosity, does your research make any reference to 102 pilots from the 176th FIS?Wis.ANG, serving in Viet Nam. This was my Dad's old outfit. |
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"Harley W. Daugehrty" wrote:
If I remember correctly the F-102 was not exactly a "safe" aircraft, it was a rather of a challenge to fly and its mission profile in a nuclear exchange was not desirable at all. May be, but by the 1970's that was all in the past. Patrolling over the Gulf of Mexico for waves of bombers from Cuba was hardly the stuff of legend. To everyone else who did correct me about the use of the F-102 in SEA, thank for the information. Scott Peterson Seen it all, done it all, can't remember most of it. |
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