New FSS frustration

The Visitor wrote:
Well I didn't say I talked to a receptionist.
Just suggesting something that has in the past worked out for me.



Yes, you can. Call the facility and ask for your clearance and void time.

Why bring up the poor receptionist? I have never gotten one.

It might have changed in the US in the last few years, but in Toronto
for instance, the number from the flight supplement rings on the desk of
the duty shift supervisor, and he is a controller, although not always
plgged in and working.

Hey it works and nobody minds. I was always treated nice and everybody
has always been helpful.

John

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"The Visitor" wrote in message
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No, but I could get a time void clearance, but that was probably ten years
ago or so. You probably can't do it today, it would be ttoo easy. gman's
wait was waaaay to long.



You can't get one by calling a receptionist. The only person that can issue
a clearance is the controller responsible for the position.

"The Visitor" wrote in message
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Why bring up the poor receptionist?


Somebody suggested calling the published number to reach the controller for
a clearance. I was just explaining that the published number isn't going to
be answered by the controller.

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

Somebody suggested calling the published number to reach the controller for
a clearance. I was just explaining that the published number isn't going to
be answered by the controller.




Well that was me I think. I used the numbers on the Jepp maps, or was it
in the front of my number 1 Jepp binder. Not a number in a phone book.

It is certainly not answered by a controller pluged in. My experience
has been it is answered by a controller (on duty) and is happy to deal
with any request. But perhps somebody can try it now and see if things
have changed?

John

For an unsympathetic response look at
http://themainbang.typepad.com/blog/...d_for_i_1.html

This is from the former president of the NATCA. If you look at the rest of
his entries. I belive you will be enlightened and have a better view at the
other end of the Headset.


"gman" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hello All,
Sorry for ranting but:

{ SNIP}

Has anybody else had any frustrating experiences like this with the
new FSS?

I fly out of JSV under the control of Razorback Approach @FSM. I have
called Razorback Approach several times when wx was IFR and been issued a
clearance, it was issued via cell phone while waiting to depart. Not sure
if it was the guy at the position who talked to me, but it could have been
relayed to me by someone else in the facility. That's what happens when you
call FSS for a clearance.

Mark


"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"The Visitor" wrote in message
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No, but I could get a time void clearance, but that was probably ten
years ago or so. You probably can't do it today, it would be ttoo easy.
gman's wait was waaaay to long.


You can't get one by calling a receptionist. The only person that can
issue a clearance is the controller responsible for the position.

"Mark Manes" wrote in message
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I fly out of JSV under the control of Razorback Approach @FSM. I have
called Razorback Approach several times when wx was IFR and been issued a
clearance, it was issued via cell phone while waiting to depart. Not sure
if it was the guy at the position who talked to me, but it could have been
relayed to me by someone else in the facility. That's what happens when
you call FSS for a clearance.


Not quite. When you call FSS for a clearance the conversation is recorded.

Is the clearance via cell phone from the local approach/departure control
recorded also?

Mark


"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
hlink.net...
That's what happens when
you call FSS for a clearance.


Not quite. When you call FSS for a clearance the conversation is
recorded.

"Mark Manes" wrote in message
...

Is the clearance via cell phone from the local approach/departure control
recorded also?


Not if you're calling the office.