KEAT name history?

On Jun 6, 3:45 pm, (Paul Tomblin) wrote:
Since they changed from a non-ICAO id (i.e. one containing digits) to an
ICAO-eligible one, I assume they recently got an ASOS or AWOS. As for why
they picked that particular id, PJC, maybe it's just the best of the
remaining ids?

As far as i can tell KZEL is available, or KZMA, or ... but who
knows. PJC just seems completely random - I can't figure out a person
or place to connect it to.

tjd wrote:
On Jun 6, 12:01 pm, "RST Engineering" wrote:

Care to explain the logic of KGOO???


I see it was recently changed from O17 to GOO - I have absolutely no
idea where they're coming up with the identifiers for these changes.
There's an airport near me, Zelienople Municipal Airport, that changed
from 8G7 to PJC and I can't figure out any connection. If anyone has
any insight I'd love to hear it...

todd.



The just got weather reporting and have to have all letters. A local
airport went from F39 to KGYI when it got AWOS

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On Jun 6, 4:34 pm, tjd wrote:
On Jun 6, 3:45 pm, (Paul Tomblin) wrote:

Since they changed from a non-ICAO id (i.e. one containing digits) to an
ICAO-eligible one, I assume they recently got an ASOS or AWOS. As for why
they picked that particular id, PJC, maybe it's just the best of the
remaining ids?

As far as i can tell KZEL is available, or KZMA, or ... but who
knows. PJC just seems completely random - I can't figure out a person
or place to connect it to.

According to http://www.skygod.com/asstd/abc.html "Z" codes have been
reserved for "special uses".
Along with the dirth of ids there are also apparently restrictions
such as "the first and second letters or second and third letters of
an identifier may not be duplicated with less than 200 nautical miles
separation." Ids like PJC maybe what you end up with in that
situation.

"Bob Crawford" wrote in message
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On Jun 6, 4:34 pm, tjd wrote:
On Jun 6, 3:45 pm, (Paul Tomblin) wrote:

Since they changed from a non-ICAO id (i.e. one containing digits) to
an
ICAO-eligible one, I assume they recently got an ASOS or AWOS. As for
why
they picked that particular id, PJC, maybe it's just the best of the
remaining ids?

As far as i can tell KZEL is available, or KZMA, or ... but who
knows. PJC just seems completely random - I can't figure out a person
or place to connect it to.

According to http://www.skygod.com/asstd/abc.html "Z" codes have been
reserved for "special uses".
Along with the dirth of ids there are also apparently restrictions
such as "the first and second letters or second and third letters of
an identifier may not be duplicated with less than 200 nautical miles
separation." Ids like PJC maybe what you end up with in that
situation.


Sean D. Tucker doesn't own the domain www.skygod.com???

;^)

"Bob Crawford" wrote in message
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Along with the dirth of ids there are also apparently restrictions
such as "the first and second letters or second and third letters of
an identifier may not be duplicated with less than 200 nautical miles
separation."


A restriction that is often overlooked. About sixty miles southeast of AUW
you'll find ATW, continue for another 40 miles or so and you'll find MTW.

On Jun 7, 12:28 pm, Bob Crawford wrote:
According to http://www.skygod.com/asstd/abc.html "Z" codes have been
reserved for "special uses".

Ah, I've read that site before but apparently not well enough... I
actually thought about whether there were any restrictions on leading
Z before I posted, but convinced myself there were not thanks to
another nearby airport - Zanesville (KZZV). FWIW, someone pointed out
in a similar discussion elsewhere that there's also KNEW in New
Orleans, so all the rules are made to be broken I suppose

Your 200nm rule might explain why it wasn't KELI - too close to
KERI... so, yeah, maybe they just got sick of trying to make something
fit and picked some random letters out of the hat. Maybe someday I'll
get to the bottom of it...

todd

In a previous article, tjd said:
Your 200nm rule might explain why it wasn't KELI - too close to
KERI... so, yeah, maybe they just got sick of trying to make something

Check out KELM and KELZ some time. According to CoPilot, they're 49.0 nm
apart.


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According tohttp://www.skygod.com/asstd/abc.html"Z" codes have been
reserved for "special uses".

Many of the Z codes are used by centers. KZSE, KZOA, etc.

In article ,
Paul Tomblin wrote:
In a previous article, tjd said:
Your 200nm rule might explain why it wasn't KELI - too close to
KERI... so, yeah, maybe they just got sick of trying to make something

Check out KELM and KELZ some time. According to CoPilot, they're 49.0 nm
apart.

3O7 to 3O8 is a similar distance, and just an off by one error.

John
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(John Clear) wrote in
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In article ,
Paul Tomblin wrote:
In a previous article, tjd said:
Your 200nm rule might explain why it wasn't KELI - too close to
KERI... so, yeah, maybe they just got sick of trying to make something

Check out KELM and KELZ some time. According to CoPilot, they're 49.0 nm
apart.

3O7 to 3O8 is a similar distance, and just an off by one error.

John

Hollister is no longer 3O7. It is now CVH and the distance to Harris
Ranch (3O8) according to AirNav is 68.5 NM.

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