Piloting is the second most dangerous occupation

Mxsmanic wrote:
Doug Semler writes:

Next thing he'll say is "just
because you're smart doesn't mean you have commmon sense" ...

No. First, there's no such thing as "common sense." Second, intelligent
people have reasoning ability superior to that of unintelligent people, since
this ability is one of the hallmarks of intelligence.

*All* groupings based on a demonstrable ability are "self-selected,"
from Mensans to pilots to NFL players.

No. People choose to join Mensa, but they do not choose to be subject to,
say, military conscription.

Still having reading comprehension problems I see.

What "demonstrable ability" makes one subject to military conscription
other than being of "normal" health?

In other words, it isn't because those
other 119,930,000 people haven't joined because they were denied, it
was because they CHOSE not to join.

Essentially, yes, although it's not a matter of actively choosing not to join
so much as it is a matter of not actively choosing to join.

Most intelligent people don't need the trivial validation that Mensa
membership provides. The ones who do are that way because they've
accomplished so little else in life, in most cases.

Yeah, right, straight from the mouth of the poster boy for those that
have "accomplished so little else in life".

It still smells like sour grapes.


--
Jim Pennino

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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Doug Semler writes:

Next thing he'll say is "just
because you're smart doesn't mean you have commmon sense" ...

No. First, there's no such thing as "common sense."


Not in your world, anyway

Bertie

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Mxsmanic wrote:
Doug Semler writes:

piggybacking, I broke down and plonked MX

Next thing he'll say is "just
because you're smart doesn't mean you have commmon sense" ...

No. First, there's no such thing as "common sense."

Whatever. MX knows exactly what I meant by the statement. Total strawman.
Like I said, a child in the corner jumping up and down yelling "look at
me...look at me...."

Second, intelligent
people have reasoning ability superior to that of unintelligent people,
since
this ability is one of the hallmarks of intelligence.

So you admit that I have a superior reasoning ability since I can prove my
intelligence. Duh. What's the point of argument with me then? Masochism?


*All* groupings based on a demonstrable ability are "self-selected,"
from Mensans to pilots to NFL players.

No. People choose to join Mensa, but they do not choose to be subject
to,
say, military conscription.

Still having reading comprehension problems I see.

What "demonstrable ability" makes one subject to military conscription
other than being of "normal" health?

I don't care if you are an "English teacher" or an "English as a second
language teacher." Both require basic comprehension skills. Which MX
obviously lacks.


In other words, it isn't because those
other 119,930,000 people haven't joined because they were denied, it
was because they CHOSE not to join.

Essentially, yes, although it's not a matter of actively choosing not to
join
so much as it is a matter of not actively choosing to join.

Most intelligent people don't need the trivial validation that Mensa
membership provides. The ones who do are that way because they've
accomplished so little else in life, in most cases.

Yeah, right, straight from the mouth of the poster boy for those that
have "accomplished so little else in life".

It still smells like sour grapes.

I notice the context was snipped again. But I agree on the sour grapes
comment. MX has a habit of gross overgeneralization. I joined not for any
"trivial validation" such as has been claimed. *I* know I'm smart. I don't
need any validation for that. I joined as a resume booster for the area in
which I live. It's amazing how those little words (Member, American Mensa)
put your resume on the top of the pile. I'm published. Google "Unisys
Federal Reserve." The high speed image processing software is mine (ok,ok,
with the help of a few others g, but you get the point) . I helped to
write alot of the software that is used by the US military (and foreign
governments, for that matter) for weather forecasting (never mention the
words "MM5," "GRIB," or "SeaWifs" to me g). Hell, the same algorithms are
used to flag the winds aloft on weather.gov..It's pretty cool how you can
uses satellite microwave sensor data to detect the wind speed and direction
at various altitudes. The forcasting algorithms, on the other hand.....But
I digress.

No. I don't need validation. My accomplishments have been recognized by
those that matter. MX is *not* one of those that matter. The US government
is a differnt story g. Besides, I don't know that I would consider
"thousands of hours of flight time" in a flight simulator, no matter HOW
good, as any sort of accomplishment.

Oh, I don't mean to sound like I'm tooting my own horn (which I am, of
course big grin, but sigh whatever. I'm now going to go back to
analyzing my results on why people become pilots.

--
Doug Semler
a.a. #705, BAAWA. EAC Guardian of the Horn of the IPU (pbuhh).
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Doug Semler wrote:
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Oh, I don't mean to sound like I'm tooting my own horn (which I am, of
course big grin, but sigh whatever. I'm now going to go back to
analyzing my results on why people become pilots.

The point that people often join organizations and particpate in
activities because of their positive value on a resume is probably
totaly lost on MX.

Tastefully done, tooting one's own horn is perfectly acceptable (unless
you do it so much you need glasses).

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Jim Pennino

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If it is, then it isn't from you.

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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:29:59 -0700, "Gattman"
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But what do we all know? We're just pilots.

Well, I could pull out my Mensa card, but of course that doesn't show
anything, does it?


Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth
And danced the pixelated skies on digitally-rendered wings;
Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split digits and simulated a hundred things
You have not dreamed of - installed and booted and simmed
High in the bedroom silence, sitting there
I've chased the shouting frame-rates along, and flung
my eager floppy disks from my Frito-covered chair
download, download the long delirous hacks and mods
I've programmed Function Keys with easy grace
What no real pilots ever do
And, while with unsilent addled mind I've trod
the high untresspassed similuated sanctity of MSFSX
Released my joystick and touched the display on my monitor.

Brilliant!
--

Martin

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What "demonstrable ability" makes one subject to military conscription
other than being of "normal" health?

You've answered your own question.

Actually, there are many conditions that exclude a person from military
conscription in most cases, since there are minimum standards for mental and
physical fitness.

Doug Semler writes:

So you admit that I have a superior reasoning ability since I can prove my
intelligence.

A superior reasoning ability is inherent in intelligence, not in the proof of
intelligence. Thus, an intelligent person can reason well with or without an
arbitrary credential to "prove" that he is intelligent.

What's the point of argument with me then?

Why would your nominally better-than-average reasoning ability be an obstacle
to debate with you?

I joined as a resume booster for the area in which I live.

You shouldn't put Mensa membership on a resume; it can do as much harm as
good, especially if the person reading the resume knows the organization well.

It's amazing how those little words (Member, American Mensa) put your
resume on the top of the pile.

How are you able to determine where your resume goes in the top of the pile?
And if it is so effective in this context, why are you sending out resumes?

I'm published.

That's much better on a resume than Mensa membership. A lot of Mensa members
seem to be living with their parents.

No. I don't need validation. My accomplishments have been recognized by
those that matter.

But you just said that Mensa membership puts you on the top of the pile. If
the rest of the resume is so impressive, why would the mention of Mensa make
so much difference?

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The point that people often join organizations and particpate in
activities because of their positive value on a resume is probably
totaly lost on MX.

I understand the principle of credentialism. I question whether Mensa
membership is a suitable credential for a resume, however.

Nomen Nescio writes:

I joined to meet women who didn't think that a square root grew at
the base of a square tree.

If you like horny women who weigh 300 pounds, membership might be useful.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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writes:

The point that people often join organizations and particpate in
activities because of their positive value on a resume is probably
totaly lost on MX.

I understand the principle of credentialism. I question whether Mensa
membership is a suitable credential for a resume, however.


Why, don't they accept the bankrupt?

Bertie