B-52 Re-engining?

What came out of the A-300 acident was both large
transport manufacturers saying pilots should not use the rudder under normal
operations.


So one doesn't use rudder when doing a manual turn as one does on every other
aircraft made? If AFCS isn't engaged one has to use rudder to control slip in a
turn. Ever heard of the expression "step on the ball?"

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

"Tarver Engineering" wrote

The pilot flying keeps his feet on the rudder
pedals when hand-flying the aircraft.

An unsafe practice, for modern airliners.

Do you have a source for this? Seems far fetched, but I don't fly airlines,

"B2431" wrote in message
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What came out of the A-300 acident was both large
transport manufacturers saying pilots should not use the rudder under
normal
operations.


So one doesn't use rudder when doing a manual turn as one does on every
other
aircraft made?

The YAW damper moves the rudder for the airplane, no human workload is
involved.

If AFCS isn't engaged one has to use rudder to control slip in a
turn. Ever heard of the expression "step on the ball?"

The only way to disable the automatic YAW damper is to pull the circuit
breaker.

Ever heard of a fugoid? This is an F-4 related question, so don't blow it.

"Gene Storey" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote

The pilot flying keeps his feet on the rudder
pedals when hand-flying the aircraft.

An unsafe practice, for modern airliners.

Do you have a source for this? Seems far fetched, but I don't fly
airlines,

In 1972 FAA instituted an automation of airliners requirment. Enterpolating
the number of passengers killed in that hand flying age to the number of
revenue flights today, hand flying predicts killing aproximately 5,000
passengers a year. Instead, man in the loop automated systems have turned
in two years of zero killed; for US common carriers since 1997.

Consider, you are more in hazard of dying of natural causes during an
Airliner ride, than you are to die in a crash. The statistics are such
today that a two man cockpit has become a statistical life saver, as a small
number of Captains expire each year enroute.

The only way to disable the automatic YAW damper is to pull the circuit
breaker.

Ever heard of a fugoid? This is an F-4 related question, so don't blow it.

What does a tendency to manually over control in pitch have tp do with yaw?

Dan, U. S. Air Forve, retired

"B2431" wrote in message
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The only way to disable the automatic YAW damper is to pull the circuit
breaker.

Ever heard of a fugoid? This is an F-4 related question, so don't blow
it.

What does a tendency to manually over control in pitch have tp do with
yaw?

Nope, go look it up.

"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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"Gene Storey" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote

The pilot flying keeps his feet on the rudder
pedals when hand-flying the aircraft.

An unsafe practice, for modern airliners.

Do you have a source for this? Seems far fetched, but I don't fly
airlines,

In 1972 FAA instituted an automation of airliners requirment.
Enterpolating
the number of passengers killed in that hand flying age to the number of
revenue flights today, hand flying predicts killing aproximately 5,000
passengers a year. Instead, man in the loop automated systems have turned
in two years of zero killed; for US common carriers since 1997.

Consider, you are more in hazard of dying of natural causes during an
Airliner ride, than you are to die in a crash. The statistics are such
today that a two man cockpit has become a statistical life saver, as a
small
number of Captains expire each year enroute.


And the logical conclusion from that would be,
since the befofementioned pitot system tendency to
become clogged with mudbees is such that the elevator
load feel system is an absolute guarantee for being locked into
a condition wheras the pitch attitude is somewhat determined by
the ratio of the lift vectors as seen from the perspective of the
outflow valves. And that is a very serious condition, indeed.
JK

"Tarver Engineering" wrote
"Gene Storey" wrote
"Tarver Engineering" wrote

The pilot flying keeps his feet on the rudder
pedals when hand-flying the aircraft.

An unsafe practice, for modern airliners.

Do you have a source for this? Seems far fetched, but I don't fly
airlines,

In 1972 FAA instituted an automation of airliners requirment. Enterpolating
the number of passengers killed in that hand flying age to the number of
revenue flights today, hand flying predicts killing aproximately 5,000
passengers a year. Instead, man in the loop automated systems have turned
in two years of zero killed; for US common carriers since 1997.

Consider, you are more in hazard of dying of natural causes during an
Airliner ride, than you are to die in a crash. The statistics are such
today that a two man cockpit has become a statistical life saver, as a small
number of Captains expire each year enroute.

So the answer is no, you don't have any source?

"Gene Storey" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote
"Gene Storey" wrote
"Tarver Engineering" wrote

The pilot flying keeps his feet on the rudder
pedals when hand-flying the aircraft.

An unsafe practice, for modern airliners.

Do you have a source for this? Seems far fetched, but I don't fly
airlines,

In 1972 FAA instituted an automation of airliners requirment.
Enterpolating
the number of passengers killed in that hand flying age to the number of
revenue flights today, hand flying predicts killing aproximately 5,000
passengers a year. Instead, man in the loop automated systems have
turned
in two years of zero killed; for US common carriers since 1997.

Consider, you are more in hazard of dying of natural causes during an
Airliner ride, than you are to die in a crash. The statistics are such
today that a two man cockpit has become a statistical life saver, as a
small
number of Captains expire each year enroute.

So the answer is no, you don't have any source?

If you want a URL, do a google search.

"Tarver Engineering" wrote

If you want a URL, do a google search.

I did. It said effective rudder use is required for a cross-wind take-off, and to
not use the tiller over about 30 knots accelerating to keep the aircraft centered.

Another page talks about slip techniques.