Saw President Bush's plane (response to "Saw J.T.'s Plane")

"Morgans" wrote in message
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They remind me of all of the conspiracy theorists, in a way. Something
like all the POTUS is trying to do is ruin their (and as many other's)
day. So sorry; life is not fair, but I believe as you do, that a dead
president at the hands of an assassin would not be a "good thing" for the
country.

The problem is when one POTUS comes to town and shakes everybody's hand, and
the next one comes to town in secret or locks himself away from the public
so that only $X-contributors can see him. It gives the perception that one
is either wildly unpopular or a coward.

Mainly, my criticism is when they arrive DURING rush hour, and it's not just
Bush. Al Gore has done the same thing on at least two difference occasions
since he left the VP office. I don't see how he rates.

(When Bob Dole came to town several years ago he saw the Evergreen B-17
parked near the hangar and made security and staff stop what they were doing
so he could go tour the airplane and talk to the volunteers. Now there's a
good man!)

-c

In rec.aviation.piloting, on Thu 30 Aug 2007 04:49:48p, Mxsmanic
wrote:

A number of presidents have been killed in office and the country has
not disintegrated into chaos.

One could even argue that with some of them, they country was better off
afterwards.

In rec.aviation.piloting, on Thu 30 Aug 2007 04:51:26p, "Morgans"
wrote:

They remind me of all of the conspiracy theorists, in a way.
Something like all the POTUS is trying to do is ruin their (and as
many other's) day. So sorry; life is not fair, but I believe as you
do, that a dead president at the hands of an assassin would not be a
"good thing" for the country.

Kind of depends upon who the dead president is and who the replacement
might be. Unfortunately, unless the assassin manages to take out the VP
also, you just get a continuation of the previous president's political
party's policies. If by some perversion of fate, Hillary does somehow
manage to get elected, I have to say that I would definitely celebrate her
being assasinated -- especially if Bill managed to be taken out with her.
Well, at least until whichever bozo takes her place takes office.

"cjcampbell" wrote in message
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On Aug 30, 2:04 pm, Jay Beckman wrote:
On Aug 30, 7:00 am, cjcampbell
wrote:

SNIP

In fact, people have been killed by Presidential motorcades, some
recently. These things are dangerous. The Secret Service really needs
to work on the disruption and hazards to safety caused by their
security. Just because the SS guys are willing to take a bullet for
the President does not meant that everyone else in the country feels
the same way.- Hide quoted text -

There have been fatal accidents involving police officers who were
part of the escort but I've not ever heard of cilvilians dying due to
actions related to POTUS escorts.

Ah, well, if they were only police officers then it doesn't matter?

That wasn't his point even if your point was idiotic.

Of
course, given some of the other postings here, one might expect
someone from Chandler to have that attitude. :-)

Jokes aside, it was the buttbrain from Washington that made the point in the
first place.

You can remove your foot from your mouth any time, CJ.

On Aug 30, 2:35 pm, cjcampbell
wrote:
On Aug 30, 2:04 pm, Jay Beckman wrote:

On Aug 30, 7:00 am, cjcampbell
wrote:

SNIP

In fact, people have been killed by Presidential motorcades, some
recently. These things are dangerous. The Secret Service really needs
to work on the disruption and hazards to safety caused by their
security. Just because the SS guys are willing to take a bullet for
the President does not meant that everyone else in the country feels
the same way.- Hide quoted text -

There have been fatal accidents involving police officers who were
part of the escort but I've not ever heard of cilvilians dying due to
actions related to POTUS escorts.

Ah, well, if they were only police officers then it doesn't matter? Of
course, given some of the other postings here, one might expect
someone from Chandler to have that attitude. :-)

As politely as I can put this CJ...Go **** Yourself..

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ

On Aug 30, 5:56 pm, Mxsmanic blabbed the
following stupidity & ignorance:

Because your deity was gracious enough to permit it?

He's paranoid, and apparently it's contagious.

Emergencies always take precedence over everything.

You must watch a lot of movies. Can you imagine the headlines? ...

FAMILY OF FOUR KILLED BY BUSH SECURITY AFTER DECLARING EMERGENCY IN PRIVATE
PLANE

Yes, that would go over _real_ well.

Is that how you defend your freedoms? By dismissing any discussion of them
that becomes complex? Don't be surprised if you wake up one day and they are
gone.

You, my friend, seem to have little room for using the word "complex."
You know, I am fairly new to this group but I have been in Usenet for
a long, long time (probably before you were born from the way you
talk). One of the positive aspects of Usenet is the ability to express
oneself in an unmoderated format, and in your case I certainly respect
that freedom.
However, in every Usenet group I've participated in there seems to be
one or several who have little better to do than show their lack of
intelligence, stupidity, immaturity, age (usually too young for mommy
to allow them on the computer), and ignorance. These types believe
they know a lot about everything and forcefully stick their asses in
the face of just about anyone who's opinion, view, or take on reality
differs from their own.
I'm glad that in you I have found one more way to save my time, and
that would be by giving you absolutely no more of it.

Ricky

On Aug 30, 6:12 pm, "Morgans" wrote:
"Ricky" wrote

A few semesters ago some A&P students hopped the normally-open gate
going to the hangar during a Bush arrival or departure, worried about
missing lab. They were very quickly apprehended and detained,
questioned for many hours and ultimately put on a terrorist watch
list.

Ahhh, once again, proving that in our youth, (and in the youth of today) we
do not always stop to consider the implications of our activities.

Still, that is a pretty good hit for them to take, but not completely (or
even a little bit) surprising.

One of the really unfortunate aspects of this incident was that two of
these guys were in an internship offered to A&P students here by L3
Communications. L3 in Waco does almost exclusively modifications on
military aircraft (lots of restoring of P3 Orions). Many maintenance
students take advantage of this as L3 will pay your way through school
in exchange for a 2 yr. contract to work for them after graduation. At
L3 all employees are required to get varying levels of security
clearance due to the secret nature of much of the work done to the
military and government aircraft.
Unfortunately, both of these students lost their internships due to
the violation of the closed & locked gate and subsequent documentation
on the terrorist watch list.

Ricky

On Aug 30, 5:53 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

But deadly force has never been used, has it?

Typically walking through a gate (even a locked gate) or walking past someone
in a dark suit is not a justification for the use of deadly force.

What were their names, and on what date did this occur?

Do your mommy & daddy know you are on their computer?

Matt Barrow wrote:


There were several Black SUVs in attendance
Could you tell if one was the Q-Car?

No but that would sorta be the point of the Q-Car.

Ricky writes:

Do your mommy & daddy know you are on their computer?

I don't use their computer, as I'm no longer a schoolchild.

You haven't answered my question: what were their names, and what was the
date?

You see, getting names and dates is the first step in tracking down and
eliminating urban legends.