Bonanza crash caught on video

("Matt Whiting" wrote)
As though you could really measure 71% accurately on most airspeed
indicators. Why not just say 70%?


71% sticks in the memory better - it's unique, and intentionally funny,
which helps you remember it.


Paul-Mont

When I lost the engine and hit the bridge, my back seat passenger videotaped
the whole thing, right to the point where the airplane went upside down.

I watch it every now and again just to scare the living bejesus out of
myself.

Jim

--
"If you think you can, or think you can't, you're right."
--Henry Ford


"Morgans" wrote in message
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A real shame, all the way around, but it is a very unique opportunity for
others to learn some things that they may have forgotten, or never quite
learned at all. It isn't often you see the full anatomy of a plane crash,
like this one.
--
Jim in NC

Like that dirty blonde in the right seat with the blouse that just happened
to come unbuttoned?

Jim

--
"If you think you can, or think you can't, you're right."
--Henry Ford


"Richard Riley" wrote in message
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I had a couple of minor accidents as a teen - but they were caused by
distractions, not by speed.

As the survivor of two engine failures, one accident, one glider landing,
the thing I took away from the first one is that once the engine fails,
hoping it will come back at the last instant is the last thing you want to
do. If the landing is inevitable, keep that damned double-bladed sword up
front from making things worse. When it gets down to a couple of hundred
feet, chop the power, kill the mixture, turn the mags off and let the sucker
stop.

Looks to me like that prop turning at 50% power or so is what inverted this
poor bugger once it dug into that hillside. Remember, to the engine it
matters little whether it is the propeller or the airframe that turns. Stop
one and the other will continue to rotate.

Jim

--
"If you think you can, or think you can't, you're right."
--Henry Ford


"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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The speculation is at best useful as a general reminder of topics such as
DA and downwind takeoffs, but any real learning will have to await the
NTSB results. If the A36 experienced an engine failure shortly after
lift-off, then this accident falls into the "crap happens"

That is correct by my memory.

Jim

--
"If you think you can, or think you can't, you're right."
--Henry Ford

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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As much as I admire and respect Kelly, I believe that line was said
earlier by Albert Einstein.

Matt

"Newps" wrote in message
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Negative. Beech gives you the means to compute Vx for your condition.
Weight, configuration, etc.

I give Beech credit for a complete POH. Cessna is far behind in that regard.

Karl

("Jay Honeck" wrote)
In fact, they had such a restrictive impact on my (normal-for-age-16)
crazy driving that I actually bought the DVD (which is available on-
line) of those films and made my son watch it. It's WAY too
politically incorrect for our cradle-to-grave sappy society nowadays,
and it's still awful to watch.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0372321/
Hell's Highway: The True Story of Highway Safety Films (2003)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000D0YWQ.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
The cover


Paul-Mont

RST Engineering wrote:
Or even better (divide by 4, multiply by 3) 75%.

Jim


That also! :-)

Matt

Stefan wrote:
Matt Whiting schrieb:

I prefer the being in the air by the 50% point as it works for almost
all airplanes on runways that are on the short side.

Just as meaningless as any such rule, and simply not applicable on
runways which are "on the short side". As I usually fly off fields with
less than 2000 ft runway, I would never get airborne if I followed your
rule.

You would if you flew the right airplane! :-)

I used to usually fly off fields that were less than 2,000' also and had
100 foot trees at the end. If you weren't in the air by 1,000', the
trees tended to get pretty close. I agree that if there are no
obstacles, then being in the air at the halfway point is needlessly
conservative.

Matt

RST Engineering wrote:
When I lost the engine and hit the bridge, my back seat passenger videotaped
the whole thing, right to the point where the airplane went upside down.

I watch it every now and again just to scare the living bejesus out of
myself.

Jim


Jim, is that something that you have made available or would be willing
to? Maybe it is on Jay's site, I haven't checked yet.

I'm trusting that the back seat pax was OK???

Matt