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  #161  
Old September 2nd 07, 06:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Whiting
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Jay Honeck wrote:
The bottom line is that although one can learn by going the early route
in viewing a film, the learning is better with the supporting data included.


Agree. I think the benefits of watching the video will be greatly
enhanced after the NTSB report is published.

In the short term, however, I think everyone who views that video will
more carefully analyze their take-off performance whilst on the
roll. I certainly will.

Mary and I have a departure routine that seems to work. As soon as
the pilot advances the throttle, the copilot calls out (in order):

1. "Six good bars" (this is in reference to our JPI engine analyzer,
which has a bar graph depiction of each cylinder. When we lost a
cylinder coming out of Titusville, FL, it instantly pinpointed which
cylinder had failed.)

2. "RPMs good" (If the tach is indicating max RPM)

3. "Manifold pressure good"

4. "Oil pressure good" (In the green)

5. "Airspeed is alive"

This simple CRM enables the pilot to concentrate on flying the plane,
while the copilot monitors systems. It works well.


I agree with your procedure, Jay, and do much the same myself although I
add in a check of the vacuum pump as that is important for an instrument
launch. I also do all checks myself as I think it is not good for a
single pilot operation to become dependent on more than a single pilot.
I want to always be as proficient flying alone as I am flying with
another pilot or pax who can assist.

When flying with another pilot, I always specifically ask them not to
help me in any way other than monitoring things and letting me know if
something looks askew to them.

Matt
  #162  
Old September 2nd 07, 06:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
B A R R Y
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On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 08:53:20 -0700, "RST Engineering"
wrote:

When I lost the engine and hit the bridge, my back seat passenger videotaped
the whole thing, right to the point where the airplane went upside down.


Nice to hear you're here to share the experience. G
  #163  
Old September 2nd 07, 07:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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I don't know how to digitize VHS video tape, but if anybody has the setup to
do it, I'll make it available to anybody that wants it.

The only casualties were the aforementioned video camera (bounced it off the
top of the airplane which by that time was the bottom, we did, we did) and a
severe ding on my watchband where it hit the mag key. Not a drop of blood
or a scratch on any of the four of us.

Of course, two of the miserable b@$!@rd$ claimed their sex life was ruined
and got my insurance company to dish out $100k and my airplane was beer
cans, but nothing else. The hell of it was that it was a charity flight to
raise money for a memorial to a cancer victim at the airport.

Jim

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"If you think you can, or think you can't, you're right."
--Henry Ford

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...


I watch it every now and again just to scare the living bejesus out of
myself.

Jim


Jim, is that something that you have made available or would be willing
to? Maybe it is on Jay's site, I haven't checked yet.

I'm trusting that the back seat pax was OK???

Matt



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Old September 2nd 07, 07:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Of course, two of the miserable b@$!@rd$ claimed their sex life was ruined
and got my insurance company to dish out $100k and my airplane was beer
cans, but nothing else. The hell of it was that it was a charity flight
to raise money for a memorial to a cancer victim at the airport.

Jim

If they can't think of ANYTHING else, it's "Loss of Consort."

Karl


  #165  
Old September 2nd 07, 08:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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RST Engineering wrote:

I don't know how to digitize VHS video tape, but if anybody has the setup to
do it, I'll make it available to anybody that wants it.



The easiest way is to get a digital camcorder and plug that into your
A/V out on the VCR and record the tape as you play it. The camcorder
does all the work. After you've recorded it onto the camcorder you now
have it in digital form and can feed it into a computer or DVD recorder.
  #166  
Old September 2nd 07, 08:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Newps" wrote in message
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RST Engineering wrote:

I don't know how to digitize VHS video tape, but if anybody has the setup
to do it, I'll make it available to anybody that wants it.



The easiest way is to get a digital camcorder and plug that into your A/V
out on the VCR and record the tape as you play it. The camcorder does all
the work. After you've recorded it onto the camcorder you now have it in
digital form and can feed it into a computer or DVD recorder.



Wow. Why don't you suggest he converts it to BetaMax while he's at it?
Better suggestion, hook the VCR directly to a video capture card on a
computer or a DVD recorder...Not all camcorders are "digital" you know.

I would do it for you but I don't have a VHS VCR...

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Old September 2nd 07, 08:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Matt Whiting" wrote

Now we have BVM in addition to his BMV and BMW. I've never heard either a
BMV or BVM so I'll take your word that they sputter.


LOL. I didn't even realize I did that. Interesting!

Real engines
tuned properly (excluding racing engines with aggressive cams) don't
sputter. I don't consider Harley's to sputter either. They have an
uneven cadence, but I don't consider that to be sputtering by any
definition I'm familiar with.


You don't think Harleys sputter? I know you know they have an uneven firing
cadence, due to the angle of the cylinders, but besides the uneven
bap-bap---bap-bap---bap-bap, many times they don't hit on both cylinders on
every two revolutions. I call that sputtering. Perhaps you don't.

I guess sputtering is in the eye (or ear) of the beholder?
--
Jim in NC


  #168  
Old September 2nd 07, 09:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans[_2_]
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"RST Engineering"

wrote in message ...
I don't know how to digitize VHS video tape, but if anybody has the setup
to do it, I'll make it available to anybody that wants it.


E-mail coming to you on back channels, Jim. I'll include "Digitize Video
Tape" in the subject line.
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Jim in NC


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Old September 2nd 07, 09:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Newps
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Doug Semler wrote:




Wow. Why don't you suggest he converts it to BetaMax while he's at it?
Better suggestion, hook the VCR directly to a video capture card on a
computer or a DVD recorder...Not all camcorders are "digital" you know.



That's ridiculous. The VCR out is analog. If you've ever had your
computer convert analog video to digital you know how long the process
takes. And how many people have an analog video capture card in their
PC? With a digital camcorder you'll need a firewire card, commonly
known as an IEEE 1394. Lots of computers have those as they serve other
purposes. The digital camcorder, and they're all digital nowadays, does
the converting on the fly.
  #170  
Old September 2nd 07, 09:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Barrow[_4_]
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"Newps" wrote in message
. ..


RST Engineering wrote:

I don't know how to digitize VHS video tape, but if anybody has the setup
to do it, I'll make it available to anybody that wants it.



The easiest way is to get a digital camcorder and plug that into your A/V
out on the VCR and record the tape as you play it. The camcorder does all
the work. After you've recorded it onto the camcorder you now have it in
digital form and can feed it into a computer or DVD recorder.


Save a couple steps and a lot of money (over the cost of a camcorder) by
getting something like the
Turtle Beach Video Advantage USB
http://www.pricescan.com/items/item165805.asp

Even if you already have a camcorder, the TB box comes with some great
editing software.

In a couple of afternoons & evenings, we converted several old VHS camcorder
tapes of the kids when very young to digital format and then burned them to
DVDs.

We now have lots of good video to embarrass them when they get married and
have their own kids.


--
Matt Barrow
Performance Homes, LLC.
Cheyenne, WY



 




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