Force feedback versus real piloting?

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip writes:

You couldn't start my airplane, let alone get it to the end of the
runway, fjukkwit.

Some aircraft I know how to start, others not.




You couldn't start a rubber band model.


Bertie

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...
Dang. With an answer like that (I.E.: Something we already knew, in a
less than useful format) I thought I had you pegged...

;-)

Bertie has flown both state of the art sims and large aluminum
structures, and been paid well to do so.

I know. Jeez, it was a *joke*.

(Note to Self: Never tell engineer jokes in a room full of pilots...)

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


So this engineering student is walking across the campus when
another one cruises up on a new bicycle.

1st student, "Where'd you get the Bike?"

2nd student, "You know, funny thing, yesterday just after class, this
beautiful cheerleader rode up to me on this bike, stopped, took off all of
her clothes, and said Take what you want!".

1st student, "Good choice, the clothes wouldn't have fit."



Al G

In article ,
says...
Gatt writes:

IOW, you can't go from Zero hours to solo-ready in a simulator.

Then again, if you have a simulator so realistic that it allows you to become
"solo-ready," why would you want to solo at all? Flying the real thing might
not have any obvious advantages.

ROTFL

--
Duncan

150flivver wrote:

State of the art, full motion sims do a credible job of
replicating flying.

I am a pilot and flew fighters.

That particular qualification is quite cool IMO (and yes, I'm sure
there are others very similar in this group).

On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:30:55 -0800, Scott Skylane wrote:

How can you tell if there's an angineer at a party? Oh, he'll tell you!

I was at a dinner party a while back, and man there introduced himself as the
director of the local symphony orchestra.

I shouted out, "Hey, look, folks...a conductor and an engineer!"

Ron "Well, *I* thought it was funny" Wanttaja

Tina tbaker27705 gmail.com wrote:

I suspect Mx is striving for recognition any way he can. You may
remember he posted a note once about not being able to afford a
McDonald Happymeal, and his website does ask for donated money.

He, I think, resent many on this site can use avgas at the rate of
20 Big Macs with Cheese an hour. "How can", some in his
circumstances often ask, "such obviously inferior people be doing
so well compared to me?"

That could be. But that doesn't explain why a control freak puts so
much time into trying to oust him from the group (especially since
it just ain't going to happen), and so little time debunking his
arguments. If I were a pilot, I probably wouldn't bother much unless
his advice was unsafe, then I'd jump on it.

I see that on the professional side of my life quite a lot.

And others here might ask, "How come a non pilot like tina posts
so often." The answer of course is I'm brilliant (and do get some
right seat time too).

In a professional group like this, really useful might be to include
a very brief summary of past and present flying experience at the
end or in the signature of a post, especially when discrediting
someone for lack of piloting experience.

Good luck and have fun.
















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Richard Riley wrote:

On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 09:49:18 -0500, "Viperdoc"
wrote:

Good point- Anthony Atkielski, aka mxsmanic, is not a pilot and
never has been one. His only frame of reference is through playing
MSFS.


Compact, objective, clear, to the point. I might spell out
Microsoft Flight Simulator.

It's also redundant, he has already stated the same elsewhere in
this thread. And anybody who's read the group would know that
already anyway. I think you guys have it covered, if not smothered.

Now all we need is a bot.

All you need is to include a very brief summary of your past and
present flying experience in your posts when discrediting someone
for lack of flying experience. Lots of groups include regular
authors that don't have the expected qualifications.

And that's the way it is, IMO.

John Doe wrote:
Tina tbaker27705 gmail.com wrote:

I suspect Mx is striving for recognition any way he can. You may
remember he posted a note once about not being able to afford a
McDonald Happymeal, and his website does ask for donated money.

He, I think, resent many on this site can use avgas at the rate of
20 Big Macs with Cheese an hour. "How can", some in his
circumstances often ask, "such obviously inferior people be doing
so well compared to me?"

That could be. But that doesn't explain why a control freak puts so
much time into trying to oust him from the group (especially since
it just ain't going to happen), and so little time debunking his
arguments. If I were a pilot, I probably wouldn't bother much unless
his advice was unsafe, then I'd jump on it.

I see that on the professional side of my life quite a lot.

And others here might ask, "How come a non pilot like tina posts
so often." The answer of course is I'm brilliant (and do get some
right seat time too).

In a professional group like this, really useful might be to include
a very brief summary of past and present flying experience at the
end or in the signature of a post, especially when discrediting
someone for lack of piloting experience.

Good luck and have fun.

Listing experience on Usenet is really a lost cause. Anyone can state
anything about experience and it can be true or false.
The best and only way to deal with Usenet properly in my opinion anyway,
is simply to post information and data. Those who know will know
immediately what is right and what is bull crap.

Those who don't know are well advised to check out everything they read
on Usenet with competent authority before accepting the poster or what
has been posted as fact.
Those newbies hanging out on a group like this one for any length of
time soon learn who to trust and not to trust by watching the reaction
and counter posting to those who post on the forum.
Basically the old rule about Usenet still applies and has merit even
today. Come on in....lurk for a while....get a handle on who's who and
what's being said; then enter the group by ASKING something rather than
telling people what you know. If you know something that you'd like to
contribute, by all means do so, but those doing that right away should
at least TRY and use a little tact :-)
DH

--
Dudley Henriques

Dudley Henriques dhenriques rcn.com wrote:

John Doe wrote:

In a professional group like this, really useful might be to
include a very brief summary of past and present flying
experience at the end or in the signature of a post, especially
when discrediting someone for lack of piloting experience.

Listing experience on Usenet is really a lost cause.

Because it didn't make you rich and famous? I read your post about
your early USENET days frustration with listing experience. To be
clear, I didn't say a list, I said "a very brief summary of past and
present flying experience" like maybe 10 words or less.

Anyone can state anything about experience and it can be true or
false. The best and only way to deal with Usenet properly in my
opinion anyway, is simply to post information and data. Those who
know will know immediately what is right and what is bull crap.

Or obviously contradictory hogwash. The reply by 150flivver stated
"I am a pilot and flew fighters." With all your past piloting
experience, Dudley Henriques, that qualification might not mean
anything to you, but it means a lot to me. And if it were not true,
regulars would have jumped all over him.













at least TRY and use a little tact :-)
DH

--
Dudley Henriques

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On Oct 9, 11:08 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Bertie the Bunyip writes:
You couldn't start my airplane, let alone get it to the end of the runway,
fjukkwit.

Some aircraft I know how to start, others not.

My aeroplane would not fit in your bedroom