Future in Aviation for my Son?

("Robert M. Gary" wrote)
I was a twinkle in 1970

I was watching moon-shots, as a ten-year old, in 1970.

http://www.space.com/news/a11_manflights.html
Moon shot - Apollo 13 was the only one in 1970


Montblack

On Oct 11, 7:19 pm, Don Tuite
wrote:
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:10:54 -0400, James
wrote:

That would make some sense. Nobody trusts a fresh MBA. You gotta
have some real chops from having worked at actually producing
something before you got the MBA. OTOH, last time I was out of work
(2001-3), the most demollished guys I saw at the unemployment office
every week were the middle managers with MBAs and lots of experience
holding meetings.

An MBA by itself can get you a job quickly but it doesn't distinguish
you much. However, engineers with MBAs are a different story. That is
a very powerful combo.

Something I think the other old engineers here would agree with is
that the job market is cycllical and you need to be alert to when any
given specialty is about to tank. You have to be able to re-invent
yourself over and over -- something that takes a good basic grounding
in the fundamentals and some staying current with what's going on
outside your specialty.

Its always funny to me when you see engineers that got into the
industry with minimal experience during the boom time complain that
life wasn't easy forever. You can't sit around on your bottom and
expect the gravy train to keep rolling, you have to update yourself to
stay on top. Getting the MBA is part of that. I still recommend people
get the full MBA vs the eMBA. The eMBA is good for those that are
already executives but anyone else should get the full MBA.
The next degree that executives need after the MBA is the JD. That's
what I'm going to work on next. If you look through SEC filings you'll
see that more than 1/2 of executives of successful companies hold both
JD's and MBAs.

-Robert

"Jeff" jfranks1971 minus wrote in message
...
What about military flying, Jay? Helo's as a WO would get him in the air
the fastest....or go get a Art History Degree (because we all know it
takes a degree to fly a plane) and go in as an officer?

Just a thought (and my dream up until my Senior year in High School when
the Doc said "read me the bottom line".....)

Jay should explore taking it one step further and look into ROTC or even the
Air Force Academy (Naval Academy would apply as well) so his son can get the
education for FREE. Well, relatively speaking. If his son gets a pilot slot,
I believe the committment is 8 years or so.

Plus, AFA grads tend to get their pick of the pointy-nosed aircraft.

Marco

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RayMaswju1A

Or alternativley,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiph6IItmcE

If he wants to the first won't matter.


If he's just looking for a job...


Bertie

But it's easy to see that there may be undue aviation influence in
his choice at this time in his life.

If he's working at it and not being spoon fed?

It's just as easy for a kid to rebel against what his parents do,
and to go his own way. It happens all the time.

Joe is finding that learning to fly is NOT the cakewalk he thought it
would be -- and this is a good thing. Not because the flying isn't
easy for him -- it is -- but because of the bookwork and time
commitment.

Between working at the hotel, his senior year of high school, varsity
wrestling (in a state where wrestling is like football in Texas), and
taking flight lessons, he has barely enough time to sleep.

His interest in commercial aviation caught me completely by surprise.
Mary and I encouraged him to learn to fly now only so that he would
have that skill "in the bank" down the road, when he really wanted to
fly but couldn't afford it.

I didn't know (or care, really) if he had any interest in pursuing
flying as a career -- personally, I think it's a pretty tough row to
hoe -- but I'll be proud of him whatever he chooses.

(Although when he starts getting advanced ratings, and razzes me
constantly about not having my instrument rating, THAT might get to be
a pain...)

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay should explore taking it one step further and look into ROTC or even the
Air Force Academy (Naval Academy would apply as well) so his son can get the
education for FREE. Well, relatively speaking. If his son gets a pilot slot,
I believe the committment is 8 years or so.

Yep, he's looking into ROTC.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Robert M. Gary writes:

Its always funny to me when you see engineers that got into the
industry with minimal experience during the boom time complain that
life wasn't easy forever. You can't sit around on your bottom and
expect the gravy train to keep rolling, you have to update yourself to
stay on top. Getting the MBA is part of that. I still recommend people
get the full MBA vs the eMBA. The eMBA is good for those that are
already executives but anyone else should get the full MBA.
The next degree that executives need after the MBA is the JD. That's
what I'm going to work on next. If you look through SEC filings you'll
see that more than 1/2 of executives of successful companies hold both
JD's and MBAs.

Are written communication skills important?

On Oct 12, 12:57 pm, Jay Honeck wrote:

(Although when he starts getting advanced ratings, and razzes me
constantly about not having my instrument rating, THAT might get to be
a pain...)

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

It will be a good day when I get my instrument rating before he does,
with the way things are going right now. But I'm sure he'll get around
to it eventually . Thank you all for your responses, they've given
me some insight into what to expect later on. For now, I'm going to
see how far commercial aviation can take me. But who knows, we'll have
to see how it works out.
--
Joe Honeck
Iowa City, IA
"Jay's Son. Yes, that Jay, the crazy one"

On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 00:48:41 -0000, wrote:


It will be a good day when I get my instrument rating before he does,
with the way things are going right now. But I'm sure he'll get around
to it eventually . Thank you all for your responses, they've given
me some insight into what to expect later on. For now, I'm going to
see how far commercial aviation can take me. But who knows, we'll have
to see how it works out.


Jeez... Now there's two of them.. G

Good luck!