Microsoft FSX Real-Life Weather

Mxsmanic wrote in
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SockPuppet writes:

Though I haven't
done it you can also play with various GPS devices without having to
buy them (much of those devices' functionality is recreated).

The Garmin GPS units are recreated with complete accuracy


No, they aren't.


But for actually handling the plane: stalls, unusual attitudes,
spins, wind gust corrections on landing, real emergency procedures,
etc, it does not help you (IMHO).

The weaknesses of a PC sim are the lack of motion, limited visibility,
and the differences in controls. Anything that depends on either of
these will be hard to simulate, although more elaborate sim set-ups
can mitigate some of these problems. Since there's a lot more to
flying than VFR, these limitations are not as great as they seem,
unless flying a tiny plane strictly under VFR is your only ambition.

The weather stuff is okay but innacurate -- it often only gets the
weather kind of close to the airport selected.#

If you use something like ActiveSky, the weather will be identical to
that of the real world (although obviously the individual clouds will
not have the same shape).



No, it won;'t you dozy fjukk


Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote in
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"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com writes:

I already do! I've had every MSFS since the mid-80's when it was
still wire frames on my hard drive-less Tandy, but as an ACTUAL pilot
it isn't near the fun and experience that I get sitting behind the
controls of an actual airplane.

And yet you've had every MSFS since the mid-80s. Hmm. It's not that
fun but you keep buying it.


Probably keeps hoping it will be fun. Like you keep hoping you'll be a
real boy someday.


This past year I've put in over 720 hours of simulation. If I wanted
to do that in real life, even on a very tiny airplane, it would cost
me $253,800 in rental fees (not counting $56,000 to get the pilot's
license and IR). Overall, even if the sim doesn't provide quite the
same experience, it provides a lot more bang for the buck. And unless
you're absolutely hellbent on experiencing some aspect of flying that
only the real aircraft provides, simulation can be more than
sufficient to deal with a love of aviation.

The situation is even more lopsided if you like to fly airliners.


No it isn't I've flown airliners more than that in a year, and
guess,what? It didn't cost me anything.

Quite the contrary.


But then, I can fly.



I also fly RC planes but it isn't near as much fun as flying a
real plane as well.

I've never been able to get into RC aircraft. When they can fly at a
speed that matches their scale, maybe I'll be more interested. Flying
at Mach 7 and pulling 350 Gs isn't very realistic.

Tomorrow I'm going overseas for business and I have to
sit in the back of a Delta flight and I'm sure that won't be as much
fun as flying the plane either.

Nor will it be as much fun as the simulator.



What a complete jerkoff you are.


Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Paul Tomblin writes:

When you start to look *down* on clouds, we'll respect your opinion
about weather.

I've done that, too.


No you haven't. You don't fly.


Your respect for my opinion (or lack thereof) is
irrelevant to me.



That's because reality is irrelevant to you.


Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Dan Luke writes:

And it will actually *help* you learn to fly a full scale airplane,
as opposed to MSFS, which will teach you bad habits you will have to
unlearn.

There are important differences between RC flight and real flight, at
least as many as there are between sim flight and real flight.




Nope, They are both flight.



Fjukkwit.


Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote in
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SockPuppet writes:

In some ways a sim is harder to fly, I think.

One time my flight instructor was over at my house. She wanted to try
out the MSFS because she thought it might have been helping me
advance faster (I don't know that it did, but maybe).

My instructor is rated for aerobatics instruction.

The sim is so limiting in terms of feedback and vision and control
inputs that she just couldn't do any of the tricks she normally can
do. She and I got a good laugh as she jerked around in her chair and
then get lost on final and stalled out 100 feet above the runway.
KABOOSH! Of course the price of "fokking up" is nil in a sim. So what
if you spin in from 100 feet in MSFS?

This illustrates the point several people made of a) sims not being
enough like real planes and b) not being as much fun, but also I
think c) you can put the plane in places you'd never put it in real
life (not necessarily stalls at 100 feet above the runway) and then
go have a whiskey after it explodes -- if it explodes.

It also makes it easy to identify pilots who can't fly on instruments
(because if you can fly on instruments, you can fly the sim).

Aerobatics is probably about the worst thing to attempt in MSFS.


How would you know? You don't fly.



I picked up one bad habit from MSFS from the way the joystick worked
while touching down and my instructor caught it early on during
training and I made the problem go away without further ado.

What bad habit was that?


What's it to you?

You don't fly?


Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote in
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SockPuppet writes:

I imagine the fly by wire sticks in sophisticated newer aircraft
don't have dead spots and voltage jumps.

I'm sure they do,

Not as part of theri design, fjukwit.




So, worng agian.


Bertie

"Mxsmanic"wrote ...
This past year I've put in over 720 hours of simulation. If I wanted to
do
that in real life, even on a very tiny airplane, it would cost me $253,800
in
rental fees (not counting $56,000 to get the pilot's license and IR).

How many simulated dollars have you caused in aircraft repairs, medical
treatment costs and insurance payments?

On Oct 24, 5:56 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
george writes:
Yes. And?

And the same software drives the sim in both cases. It's the same "game."

The difference is that the 'Kiwi' is populated by pilots who give each
other feedback on real life problems they have observed throughout
their flying careers both as PPL's and CPL's and testing the different
solutions possible in safety.

Those who try the Kiwi appear to, in the main, be real live pilots.

Whether or not the sim is a game has nothing to do with the people using it
(or "playing the game"). If a six-year-old steps into a full-motion sim, that
doesn't turn the sim into a game.

Bad simile.
For the 6 year old it -is- a game!
For trainee flight crew it is a full on 90 minute hour and for line
flight crew it is maintaining ratings, route famil and the constant
training/revision required..

The Garmin GPS units are recreated with complete accuracy

No, they aren't.

Yes, 'fraid they are.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder 56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

The Garmin GPS units are recreated with complete accuracy

No, they aren't.

Yes, 'fraid they are.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder 56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"