A Very Disturbing Story

Matt W. Barrow wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Nobody is more likely to abuse a child than his own parents..

Except for creepy guys that move to France, have no job and are
anti-social.
Um, Gig? MX (for once) is right; the overwhelming majority of abuse
cases are parental, though far more often they're step-parent.

Well of course they are. But there are more reasons than concern about abuse
to keep your kids away from guys like MX.

"Gatt" wrote

The Vatican? The fact that this guy wasn't a teacher and he still
tortured little boys? Would you like it the public started making the
same sweeping generalizations about pilots as you appear to be doing about
public schools?

One thing is always a constant, with his current added personal pressures
aside.

He has a perennial hard on for the public school systems.

My advice is to ignore his ravings on the subject, and move on. He will
never give in, or admit he could be wrong on the subject.

Besides that flaw, I think Matt can be a pretty nice guy. g
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Jim in NC

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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Matt W. Barrow wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Nobody is more likely to abuse a child than his own parents..

Except for creepy guys that move to France, have no job and are
anti-social.
Um, Gig? MX (for once) is right; the overwhelming majority of abuse
cases are parental, though far more often they're step-parent.

Well of course they are. But there are more reasons than concern about
abuse to keep your kids away from guys like MX.

Well, yes, I would keep my kids gerbils away from him...

"Morgans" wrote in message
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"Gatt" wrote

Would you like it the public started making the same sweeping
generalizations about pilots as you appear to be doing about public
schools?

He has a perennial hard on for the public school systems.

What's troubling is that I think it's a political/radio-show/media driven;
sort an analog to the left-wing superfreakout about school shootings and
church sex scandals, or the general public's paranoia about airplanes.

Stastics show that aviation is safer than ever, that school shootings
haven't increased since the '60s, and, probably, that there's no more
misconduct now in church than ever; the media cycle is just quicker and
avenues of dialog are free and abundant, so we all hear about them more.
But I keep flipping on the morning traffic report and hearing some talk show
idiot talking about "Pubic screwls" and the next thing you know, somebody's
ranting on the usenet. I Do Not Know Anybody who ever claimed to be
molested by a teacher or a preacher, ever, but they make it sound like it
happens everywhere and that it's tolerated.

And, realistically, I may have actually discovered girls while staring at my
algebra teacher's butt through the entire class every day, so I
-could- be just a little jealous of these brats. ;

-c

Gatt writes:

What's troubling is that I think it's a political/radio-show/media driven;
sort an analog to the left-wing superfreakout about school shootings and
church sex scandals, or the general public's paranoia about airplanes.

That's because the real objective of the news media is to frighten people.
Frightened people will continue to watch and read the news in a vain search
for reassurance. Unfrightened people tend not to watch and read the news very
much. So to sustain viewer/reader numbers, the media sensationalizes the news
and emphasizes the bad, scary side of everything, in order to keep everyone
scared.

Unfortunately, this tends to make viewers/readers excessively paranoid over
time, as they come to believe that the world is orders of magnitude more
dangerous than it actually is. This causes them to behave hysterically, and
it also encourages them to sacrifice their freedoms in exchange for assurances
of security even though the security is both illusory and unnecessary.

Stastics show that aviation is safer than ever, that school shootings
haven't increased since the '60s, and, probably, that there's no more
misconduct now in church than ever; the media cycle is just quicker and
avenues of dialog are free and abundant, so we all hear about them more.

Yes. A lot of people sit mesmerized in front of CNN or Fox all day, but few
people ever actually look things up.

But I keep flipping on the morning traffic report and hearing some talk show
idiot talking about "Pubic screwls" and the next thing you know, somebody's
ranting on the usenet. I Do Not Know Anybody who ever claimed to be
molested by a teacher or a preacher, ever, but they make it sound like it
happens everywhere and that it's tolerated.

It is in fact very rare, and many of the cases that do exist exist only
because the definition of molestation is so broad in so many areas (e.g.,
kissing a student on the cheeck may count as molestation, even when one
six-year-old kisses another).

Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Well of course they are. But there are more reasons than concern about abuse
to keep your kids away from guys like MX.

Not really. If the real concern is to protect children, then a lot more needs
to be done to monitor the way parents treat their children. But no one ever
actually does this for reasons I've already stated.

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Mxsmanic wrote:
A Guy Called Tyketto writes:

So now you're saying that people should treat parents (both
mother, father, and/or legal guardians) of a child or children with
vigilance, hysteria, and paranoia.

No.

Parents should be treated with extreme vigilance, as they are the greatest
threat to their children. But there is no need for hysteria or paranoia, not
only with respect to parents, but with respect to everyone else.

Then following your logic, it would be deemed justifiable to be
vigilant towards your parents for conceiving you. I see now, and should
remind others to act as such should they ever find them.


You've blisfully cropped my second sentence to that paragraph,
which states: "Luckily for you, those men are men of character and are
above such things, and above you."

Men of character do not engage in violent acts against those with whom they
disagree.

Didn't I just say that? I say again, They are men of character
and _are above such things, and above you_ .

In simpler terms, they are better than you, just by being who
they are, and no matter how much you troll or call them out, they will
always be better men, better women, better PARENTS than you will ever
be or ever hope to be.

Judging from what you have mentioned, it is plain to see that
you are not a parent, nor have ever been a parent.

How might one go about validating your judgement?

Do your own damned research and come back to us with
substantiated proof. Until then, it is up to you to prove me wrong.

BL.
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On Nov 6, 7:10 am, "Viperdoc" wrote:
"It is in fact very rare, and many of the cases that do exist exist only
because the definition of molestation is so broad in so many areas (e.g.,
kissing a student on the cheeck may count as molestation, even when one
six-year-old kisses another)."

So this is why Anthony now lives in France?

For, um.... disturbing values chosen for 'lives'

A Guy Called Tyketto writes:

Then following your logic, it would be deemed justifiable to be
vigilant towards your parents for conceiving you.

No. Conceiving a child is not, in itself, any form of abuse.

However, it is important to remain vigilant about potential abuse by parents,
as it is extremely widespread, underreported, and rarely prosecuted.

Do your own damned research and come back to us with
substantiated proof.

Judgement is subjective by definition; it cannot be objectively proved.
Therefore there is any research that anyone can do to validate your judgement.
It is simply your opinion. What makes your opinion especially valuable?

Until then, it is up to you to prove me wrong.

See above. There are arguably good judgement and poor judgement, but no
judgement is provably right or wrong.

Would you provide credible evidence that your statement


However, it is important to remain vigilant about potential abuse by parents,
as it is extremely widespread, underreported, and rarely prosecuted.


is in any way valid?

I thought not.






Do your own damned research and come back to us with
substantiated proof.

Judgement is subjective by definition; it cannot be objectively proved.
Therefore there is any research that anyone can do to validate your judgement.
It is simply your opinion. What makes your opinion especially valuable?

Until then, it is up to you to prove me wrong.

See above. There are arguably good judgement and poor judgement, but no
judgement is provably right or wrong.