A Very Disturbing Story

"Tina" wrote in message
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Would you provide credible evidence that your statement


However, it is important to remain vigilant about potential abuse by
parents,
as it is extremely widespread, underreported, and rarely prosecuted.


is in any way valid?

I thought not.

Well, he contends that it's all subjective, but he confuses opinions with
judgements and misses entirely HOW those judgements (abstractions) and
opinions (unsubstantiated judgements/decisions) are brought about.

HINT: "Floating" abstractions (based on concepts).


Do your own damned research and come back to us with
substantiated proof.

Judgement is subjective by definition; it cannot be objectively proved.
Therefore there is any research that anyone can do to validate your
judgement.
It is simply your opinion. What makes your opinion especially valuable?

Until then, it is up to you to prove me wrong.

See above. There are arguably good judgement and poor judgement, but no
judgement is provably right or wrong.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Except for creepy guys that move to France, have no job and are
anti-social.

Even they are not as likely to abuse children as are the parents of
those children.





Only because they run screaming when they see you coming,

Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Well of course they are. But there are more reasons than concern
about abuse to keep your kids away from guys like MX.

Not really. If the real concern is to protect children, then a lot
more needs to be done to monitor the way parents treat their children.
But no one ever actually does this for reasons I've already stated.



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How the **** would you know, you childless twerp?



Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote in
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A Guy Called Tyketto writes:

So now you're saying that people should treat parents (both
mother, father, and/or legal guardians) of a child or children with
vigilance, hysteria, and paranoia.

No.

Parents should be treated with extreme vigilance, as they are the
greatest threat to their children. But there is no need for hysteria
or paranoia, not only with respect to parents, but with respect to
everyone else.

If that were the case, the same should have been done with
your parents regarding you.

Vigilance would be useful for all parents.

However, most parents are so rabidly and violently paranoid about
interference with their own child-rearing activity that they are
willing to let other parents beat and kill their own children with
impunity in order to preserve imaginary parental "rights." And so
abuse continues, and a great many of society's problems can be traced
directly to poor parenting.

It's ironic that the one area that affects the future of civilization
more than anything else is left utterly and completely to chance.

You've blisfully cropped my second sentence to that paragraph,
which states: "Luckily for you, those men are men of character and
are above such things, and above you."

Men of character do not engage in violent acts against those with whom
they disagree.

Judging from what you have mentioned, it is plain to see that
you are not a parent, nor have ever been a parent.

How might one go about validating your judgement?


One shold **** off and leave parenting to people who are capable of
reproduction.


Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote in
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A Guy Called Tyketto writes:

Then following your logic, it would be deemed justifiable to be
vigilant towards your parents for conceiving you.

No. Conceiving a child is not, in itself, any form of abuse.

However, it is important to remain vigilant about potential abuse by
parents, as it is extremely widespread, underreported, and rarely
prosecuted.

Do your own damned research and come back to us with
substantiated proof.

Judgement is subjective by definition; it cannot be objectively
proved. Therefore there is any research that anyone can do to validate
your judgement. It is simply your opinion. What makes your opinion
especially valuable?

Until then, it is up to you to prove me wrong.

See above. There are arguably good judgement and poor judgement, but
no judgement is provably right or wrong.


You're an idiot.


Bertie

"Viperdoc" wrote in news:47305a2f$0$19569
:

"It is in fact very rare, and many of the cases that do exist exist only
because the definition of molestation is so broad in so many areas (e.g.,
kissing a student on the cheeck may count as molestation, even when one
six-year-old kisses another)."

So this is why Anthony now lives in France?




Trust me, the French don't like him any more than anyone else would

Bertie