New GA Security System at KFRG

Get ready guys, here it comes. In short, badges for every operator and
badged-carrying escorts for all others on the ramp (i.e. passengers).
Background checks every 2 years on our dime.

About to flip the switch in a few weeks.

Marco

Is Massport taking over FRG?

"Marco Leon" wrote in message
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Get ready guys, here it comes. In short, badges for every operator and
badged-carrying escorts for all others on the ramp (i.e. passengers).
Background checks every 2 years on our dime.

About to flip the switch in a few weeks.

Marco

On 11/8/2007 12:50:32 PM, "Marco Leon" wrote:

Get ready guys, here it comes. In short, badges for every operator and
badged-carrying escorts for all others on the ramp (i.e. passengers).
Background checks every 2 years on our dime.

Who is the group mandating this?

--
Peter

"Yes - I have a name" wrote in message
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Is Massport taking over FRG?

No, but Hanscom was referred to quite a bit. From what I understand, this is
the first large implementation since the handful of airports (i.e. Massport
airports) were done soon after 9-11.

Marco

"Peter R." wrote in message
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On 11/8/2007 12:50:32 PM, "Marco Leon" wrote:

Get ready guys, here it comes. In short, badges for every operator and
badged-carrying escorts for all others on the ramp (i.e. passengers).
Background checks every 2 years on our dime.

Who is the group mandating this?

New York State--who referred to FRG as becoming the "crown jewel" of GA
airport security. is Syracuse state-owned?

Marco

On 11/8/2007 1:49:09 PM, "Marco Leon" wrote:

is Syracuse state-owned?

Syracuse is owned by the city.

Looks like another mere window dressing move to appease the non-flying
masses. Does anyone really think it will prevent a terrorist act? Of course,
coming from the same state where the governor is pushing to issue drivers'
licenses to illegal immigrants, anything is possible.

What is AOPA saying about the new security requirement there?

--
Peter

"Peter R." wrote in message
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Syracuse is owned by the city.

Looks like another mere window dressing move to appease the non-flying
masses. Does anyone really think it will prevent a terrorist act? Of
course,
coming from the same state where the governor is pushing to issue drivers'
licenses to illegal immigrants, anything is possible.

What is AOPA saying about the new security requirement there?

They (Cebula) were in the building but the meeting I went to were only open
to the folks that took the security "training" online and were in line to
get a badge. There was a group of pilots who refused to give their SS# so
AOPA held another meeting for them in another room. They've admitted that
the TSA's items of interest were aircraft over 12,500 lbs. Since there is no
way to segregate those aircraft, they declared an entire perimeter a SIDA
(Secure Identification Display Area).

They were pretty slick. About 4 months ago, they held a meeting to say that
they will badge everyone who has access to an airplane and flat-out deny
vehicle access. The uproar was over the vehicle access so they met with the
pilot groups (one represented by AOPA) and worked out a deal where we pay
$100/year/vehicle to help defray costs of the gate access. No one objected
to the badging in general--no one. This is out of about 200 people who
showed up at that first meeting.

To be honest, as an aircraft owner, I would not want strangers roaming a
ramp with tens of thousands of dollars worth of allen key-secured avionics
in any give aircraft. I think everyone else felt the same way.

In the meeting last night, 5% of the people there (who did not go to the
original meeting months ago) spent 80% of the meeting opposing the badging
in general but by now, there had been millions spent on the system and were
ready to turn it on with the "backing" of the pilot's groups. They were a
day late and a dollar short.

As far as preventing terrorism, they are basing the background checks on the
TSA guidelines of 28 disqualifying factors.

Marco

Marco Leon writes:

As far as preventing terrorism, they are basing the background checks on the
TSA guidelines of 28 disqualifying factors.

What are the disqualifying factors?

Mxsmanic wrote:

Marco Leon writes:

As far as preventing terrorism, they are basing the background checks
on the TSA guidelines of 28 disqualifying factors.

What are the disqualifying factors?

Probably similar to those applied to commercial truck drivers who want to
haul hazardous materials:

http://www.state.ak.us/local/akpages...v/akol/hme.htm

Include things like rape, murder, treason, sedition, firearms or explosives
violations, drug trafficing, immigration violations etc. etc. There is a
waiver process for some crimes that might have happened many years ago.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Marco Leon writes:

As far as preventing terrorism, they are basing the background checks
on the TSA guidelines of 28 disqualifying factors.

What are the disqualifying factors?


What does it matter to you?

You don't fly and you never will.

Bertie