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  #321  
Old November 14th 07, 04:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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-- why did we
bother?


That one is really easy to answer. Try reading a history book or two.
You'll be amazed.


I don't think there is any universal consensus on this topic.


Thomas' reality won't accept that option, Matt. It would shatter his
view of the world.

History is fluid. We may yet wake up to discover that the
isolationists prior to World War II (of which Charles Lindbergh was a
prominent member -- necessary aviation content) were *right*...
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Jay Honeck
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  #322  
Old November 14th 07, 05:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Another generation of American men and women who paid billions of
their tax dollars to rebuild Europe after World War II, and then
sacrificed their blood and treasure to fight the Cold War for another
generation, must surely be thinking the same thing -- why did we
bother?


How much blood was lost in the Cold War?


Tens of thousands of Americans lost their lives in the "Cold War"
agains the Soviet Union. Battlegrounds where the "Cold" war became
"hot" include Korea, Viet Nam, and a dozen other less-prominent
conflicts from 1946 to 1990.

Our perception of "history" is probably flawed, since we're too close
to the events. uture historians may well record World War I & II as
a single world war (with a short, 20 year pause to re-arm), and the
following "wars" of the 20th century as skirmishes in the overall
"Cold War".
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  #323  
Old November 14th 07, 05:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gig 601XL Builder
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Jay Honeck wrote:
Another generation of American men and women who paid billions of
their tax dollars to rebuild Europe after World War II, and then
sacrificed their blood and treasure to fight the Cold War for
another generation, must surely be thinking the same thing -- why
did we bother?


How much blood was lost in the Cold War?


Tens of thousands of Americans lost their lives in the "Cold War"
agains the Soviet Union. Battlegrounds where the "Cold" war became
"hot" include Korea, Viet Nam, and a dozen other less-prominent
conflicts from 1946 to 1990.

Our perception of "history" is probably flawed, since we're too close
to the events. uture historians may well record World War I & II as
a single world war (with a short, 20 year pause to re-arm), and the
following "wars" of the 20th century as skirmishes in the overall
"Cold War".


Not mention a large percentage of the 83 names on the CIA Memorial Wall.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:C...orial-wall.jpg


  #324  
Old November 14th 07, 08:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Thomas Borchert
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Jay,

Thomas' reality won't accept that option, Matt.


You have enough to worry about with yours, don't bother with mine.

It would shatter his
view of the world.


Actually, IMHO, your view of the world definitely needs some
shattering.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

  #325  
Old November 14th 07, 09:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Jay Honeck writes:

Tens of thousands of Americans lost their lives in the "Cold War"
agains the Soviet Union. Battlegrounds where the "Cold" war became
"hot" include Korea, Viet Nam, and a dozen other less-prominent
conflicts from 1946 to 1990.


That's like saying that the current aggression in Iraq is protecting the U.S.
against WMDs.
  #326  
Old November 14th 07, 09:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

The fact that there were no attacks just proves how good we were at
protecting it.


The fact that no elephants pass through my apartment just proves how effective
my refrigerator is at keeping them out.
  #327  
Old November 14th 07, 09:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Jay Honeck wrote in news:1195059046.968009.75130@
50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com:

What is your theory as to why we did this? I can think of a few, but
I'm not sure which are truly valid in the final analysis.


Uh, Matt -- reality check he You're asking a troll who specializes
in lame, one-sentence insults to provide thoughtful analysis of a
complex socio-economic and geopolitical question that has occupiedj --
and will continue to occupy -- historians and scholars for decades.



that's because they over anylised the problem.



Bertie
  #328  
Old November 14th 07, 09:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Thomas Borchert wrote in
:

Jay,

Thomas' reality won't accept that option, Matt.


You have enough to worry about with yours, don't bother with mine.

It would shatter his
view of the world.


Actually, IMHO, your view of the world definitely needs some
shattering.


I think it's ben shonw that even that doesn't work.

Bertie
  #329  
Old November 14th 07, 09:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Jay Honeck wrote in news:1195059782.414790.326460
@v65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:

Another generation of American men and women who paid billions of
their tax dollars to rebuild Europe after World War II, and then
sacrificed their blood and treasure to fight the Cold War for another
generation, must surely be thinking the same thing -- why did we
bother?


How much blood was lost in the Cold War?


Tens of thousands of Americans lost their lives in the "Cold War"
agains the Soviet Union. Battlegrounds where the "Cold" war became
"hot" include Korea, Viet Nam, and a dozen other less-prominent
conflicts from 1946 to 1990.



Over four million people lost thier lives in the war Vietnam (possibly
closer to five) and two and a half million in Korea.

Well, it was all in a good cause, eh?


Bertie
  #330  
Old November 14th 07, 09:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Gig 601XL Builder writes:

The fact that there were no attacks just proves how good we were at
protecting it.


The fact that no elephants pass through my apartment just proves how
effective my refrigerator is at keeping them out.



In your case we'll take that literally.


Bertie
 




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