Adding on airplane

it's the pilot qualification.. and what level he is flying at.. not the
aircraft..

BT

"Mike Schumann" wrote in message
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What about a full private pilot with a current medical, flying a pure LSA
aircraft that was not certified under the regular FAA aircraft rules
(Flight Design CT, Sparrowhawk, or similar)?

Mike Schumann

"Wayne Paul" wrote in message
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"Marc Ramsey" wrote in message
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wrote:
The
LSA limitations are - briefly- max weight 1320 lbs, daylight only, max
two passenger, max speed 120 kts., max altitude 10,000' (yes there is
a LSA glider rating but the 10,000' limitation is still there.)

Is the 10,000 ft MSL limitation on LSA certified aircraft, the pilot
operating under LSA privileges, or both? Can I fly an LSA certified
glider over 10,000 ft if, I'm operating on my private glider pilot
privileges? Can I fly an LSA compliant aircraft with a standard type
certificate (say Piper Cub) over 10,000 ft MSL, if I'm operating on LSA
privileges?

It is my understanding that the 10,000 ft limitation is on the pilot, not
the aircraft. There are many old production aircraft that meet the LSA
criteria. (J-3 Cub, Taylor Craft, Champ, etc.)

Wayne
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On Nov 20, 10:00 am, Brian wrote:

Do I need to perform a check ride to get an additional category and/or
class rating?
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No, a check ride is not required. Rather, you will need to follow the
provisions of 14 CFR 61.321, which requires the following:


The private rated glider pilot does not hold a sport pilot certificate
with any category or class so there is no existing (sport pilot)
rating for the airplane category to be added to.

I remain unconvinced that a private rated glider pilot can add sport
airplane privileges without a flight test. Anyone that thinks
otherwise please provide a reference to the appropriate regulation
rather than an interpretation of someone else's comment.

61.307 defines the requirement and references some exceptions to the
requirements. I see nothing that allows a private rated glider pilot
to be exempted.

Andy

On Nov 21, 5:59 am, Andy wrote:

61.307 defines the requirement and references some exceptions to the
requirements. I see nothing that allows a private rated glider pilot
to be exempted.


I may have found my own answer. The sport pilot PTS provides this
satement:


Sport Pilot--Additional Privileges
If you hold a Sport Pilot Certificate or higher and seek to operate an
additional category or class of light-sport aircraft (14 CFR part 61,
section 61.321), you must:
1. receive a logbook endorsement .......
2. successfully complete a proficiency check from an authorized
instructor ......
3. complete an application for those privileges .......
4. receive a logbook endorsement from the instructor .......

So the key piece of information may be that a private glider rating is
assumed to be a higher rating than sport pilot with airplane category.

Anyone done this or know someone that has? How is the certificate
worded?

Andy

On Nov 21, 6:18 am, Andy wrote:
On Nov 21, 5:59 am, Andy wrote:

61.307 defines the requirement and references some exceptions to the
requirements. I see nothing that allows a private rated glider pilot
to be exempted.

You are correct Andy,

If you have a Private Glider Rating then you also have all the
privledges of a Sport Pilot Glider Rating.

With the exception of adding additional Categories and Classes two
it,this is kind of a mute point since there is no medical required for
any glider. This is unlike the Sport Pilot Airplane rating where a
Private Airplane Pilot can fly a Light Sport Airplane without a
medical.

Brian
CFIIG/ASEL

If you have a Private Glider Rating then you also have all the
privledges of a Sport Pilot Glider Rating.


Sport Pilot rating, with a glider endorsement?

Tony

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On Nov 20, 6:53 am, Andy wrote:
On Nov 19, 3:04 pm, Helen wrote:


Andy,
Helen's comments need a little clarification. With only a glider
rating one would be able to fly a LSA AIRPLANE (note not aircraft) as
if one had a student certificate.

It really depends on what you want to accomplish. If you don't want to be
restricted to LSAs, don't need to carry passengers, and are willing to get a
medical. Just take your Private (or higher) glider certificate to any flight
school, take instruction, and get signed off to solo an airplane. At that point
you are not a Student pilot, yet you are legal to fly airplanes solo forever as
long as you keep a medical and otherwise stay current. (That said, many
instructors will not give you an unrestricted signoff.)

Of course, from there it is a small deal to continue on and take your written
& checkride and have it done with.

Vaughn

Would you need to have 90 day endorsements to fly solo like a student
(power) pilot?


Vaughn Simon wrote:

Just take your Private (or higher) glider certificate to any flight
school, take instruction, and get signed off to solo an airplane. At that point
you are not a Student pilot, yet you are legal to fly airplanes solo forever as
long as you keep a medical and otherwise stay current. (That said, many
instructors will not give you an unrestricted signoff.)

Of course, from there it is a small deal to continue on and take your written
& checkride and have it done with.

Vaughn



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"Scott" wrote in message
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Would you need to have 90 day endorsements to fly solo like a student
(power) pilot?

The simple answer is "no." If a Private (or above) power pilot adds a
glider rating, the same concept applies. I was signed of to solo after
training in a Blanik L-13, then got a cockpit check log book endorsement to
fly my Ka-6E. Flew it for two years and purchased a HP-16T flew it for a
year and a half prior to taking my FAA glider flight check. The flight
check completed my glider Private Pilot (Glider) requirements and also
fulfilled my Private Pilot (Airplane) biannual check requirement.

The point is, you are not a student, you are a Private pilot receiving a new
type certification.

So once a Private Pilot why bother to get a glider, or airplane, rating?
Insurance cost. Once rated as a glider pilot I saw a significat insurance
price reduction.

Wayne
HP-14 "6F"
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Vaughn Simon wrote:

Just take your Private (or higher) glider certificate to any flight
school, take instruction, and get signed off to solo an airplane. At
that point you are not a Student pilot, yet you are legal to fly
airplanes solo forever as long as you keep a medical and otherwise stay
current. (That said, many instructors will not give you an unrestricted
signoff.)

Of course, from there it is a small deal to continue on and take your
written & checkride and have it done with.

Vaughn

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