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  #121  
Old November 22nd 07, 09:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans[_2_]
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"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea Hawk at wow way d0t com wrote


Selective Catalytic Reduction using Urea injection should start showing up
in the US soon.

That's a new one, to me. Could you give us a "high points" report on that
technology?

Are we going to have to pull in to a service station, and fill it up with
diesel fuel, and check the urea tank level, or pee into a tank, once they
start with that? g
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Jim in NC


  #122  
Old November 23rd 07, 12:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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The Camry is a great car and I may buy one. I would not be seen dead in
a Prius.





Morgans wrote:
"Newps" wrote


I was just at the Toyota dealer this week driving a Camry hybrid. No way
I get a Prius for a number of reasons. Real world driving in the Camry
gets you about 36-40 MPG in the city. For highway driving you need to
specify at what speed to make your comparison with other cars.



I'm not sure which of the reasons you gave are the reasons that cause you to
say that you would not get the hybrid Camry.

Are you saying that it is not enough improvement for the cost, or what?

I'm just curious. Thanks.

  #123  
Old November 23rd 07, 01:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Morgans" wrote in message
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Selective Catalytic Reduction using Urea injection should start showing
up in the US soon.

That's a new one, to me. Could you give us a "high points" report on that
technology?


I don't know all the details - but the Urea is used to create amonia which
will react to the NO and NO2 on the surface of the catalyst.

Are we going to have to pull in to a service station, and fill it up with
diesel fuel, and check the urea tank level, or pee into a tank, once they
start with that? g


Yea. As I understand it, the Urea tank is supposed to last for a few
thousand miles. Dunno if you could get away with peeing into the tank.

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  #124  
Old November 23rd 07, 05:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" wrote

I don't know all the details - but the Urea is used to create amonia which
will react to the NO and NO2 on the surface of the catalyst.


It is discoveries like this that makes me wonder *how* they first found this
out. Nah, never mind; I don't think I want to know! g

Yea. As I understand it, the Urea tank is supposed to last for a few
thousand miles. Dunno if you could get away with peeing into the tank.


I didn't think so. I *had* to ask, though! ;-)
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Jim in NC


  #125  
Old November 23rd 07, 06:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans[_2_]
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Yea. As I understand it, the Urea tank is supposed to last for a few
thousand miles. Dunno if you could get away with peeing into the tank.


I didn't think so. I *had* to ask, though! ;-)


After doing some reading about how it all works, I am impressed by the
number of different chemical reactions that take place using the whole SCR
process, and the urea solution. I'm no chemical engineer, and if I was, it
would probably be no big deal, but being as I'm not, it.....Sure looks like
a big deal!
--
Jim in NC


  #126  
Old November 23rd 07, 01:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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you cant do it, it's used to be refined sheeps' pee

"Morgans" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Yea. As I understand it, the Urea tank is supposed to last for a few
thousand miles. Dunno if you could get away with peeing into the tank.


I didn't think so. I *had* to ask, though! ;-)


After doing some reading about how it all works, I am impressed by the
number of different chemical reactions that take place using the whole SCR
process, and the urea solution. I'm no chemical engineer, and if I was,
it would probably be no big deal, but being as I'm not, it.....Sure looks
like a big deal!
--
Jim in NC



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Old November 23rd 07, 02:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=QmqpGZv0YT4

Wil- Hide quoted text -

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This video certainly lends some credibility to the idea of a
compressed air car. As I said, we'll see - and I would make a special
trip to see one of these.

If nothing else, this thread has produced a lively discussion, and
has, for the most part, avoided ****ing contests.

Elsewhere I stated that one cannot buy a practical electric car today.
That is not strictly true. For example, one of these would
certainly meet my requirements for a commuting vehicle: http://www.myersmotors.com.
It's even made in the suburbs of my hometown (and not China or India
etc). But omigod - the price!
It's really just an enclosed motorcycle. Howzcum none of the bigname
motorcycle manufacturers make anything like this (regardless of the
powerplant)? Probably wouldn't sell (anybody remember the
Messerschmitt in the 1950s? [yes - the same company that made aircraft
in WWII]). Nobody wanted it.

There are "promising" battery technologies "in the works" - but that
has been the case for years. I hear that some of the folks planning to
introduce "viable" batteries for EVs are talking about leasing rather
than selling their products. No doubt they forsee "Sticker Shock"
problems.

In spite of all the disappointments, there is research and
experimentation going on everywhere, and I, for one, am confident that
there are better (and hopefully revolutionary) developments ahead. For
a collection of links on this subject look at this:http://
freeenergynews.com/Directory/EV/index.html

Thanks to all who responded.

David Johnson





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Old November 23rd 07, 03:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Nov 23, 9:55 am, Dave wrote:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QmqpGZv0YT4


Wil- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


This video certainly lends some credibility to the idea of a
compressed air car. As I said, we'll see - and I would make a special
trip to see one of these.

If nothing else, this thread has produced a lively discussion, and
has, for the most part, avoided ****ing contests.

Elsewhere I stated that one cannot buy a practical electric car today.
That is not strictly true. For example, one of these would
certainly meet my requirements for a commuting vehicle:http://www.myersmotors.com.
It's even made in the suburbs of my hometown (and not China or India
etc). But omigod - the price!
It's really just an enclosed motorcycle. Howzcum none of the bigname
motorcycle manufacturers make anything like this (regardless of the
powerplant)? Probably wouldn't sell (anybody remember the
Messerschmitt in the 1950s? [yes - the same company that made aircraft
in WWII]). Nobody wanted it.

There are "promising" battery technologies "in the works" - but that
has been the case for years. I hear that some of the folks planning to
introduce "viable" batteries for EVs are talking about leasing rather
than selling their products. No doubt they forsee "Sticker Shock"
problems.

In spite of all the disappointments, there is research and
experimentation going on everywhere, and I, for one, am confident that
there are better (and hopefully revolutionary) developments ahead. For
a collection of links on this subject look at this:http://
freeenergynews.com/Directory/EV/index.html

Thanks to all who responded.

David Johnson



P.S.: If you are interested in seeing what the Messerschmitt car
looked like, go he http://www.microcarmuseum.com/ This would be a
great place to visit (East of Atlanta). It's on my list!
  #129  
Old November 24th 07, 04:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Newps" wrote in message
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The Camry is a great car and I may buy one.


The SE V-6? Ass kicker for under $25K.





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Old November 25th 07, 12:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Matt W. Barrow wrote:

"Newps" wrote in message
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The Camry is a great car and I may buy one.



The SE V-6? Ass kicker for under $25K.


Not looking for performance. Only way I buy a new car is the Camry
Hybrid. Otherwise I'll get an 05ish Accord. Another possibility is I
have a friend with a dealer license so I may get an 07 or 08 Chevy
Impala rental car that are normally disposed of at 20K miles. As much
as I would hate to be stuck with a Chevy they're hard to beat when these
things can be had for about $11K.
 




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