How many pilots, ever?

Well, the local newspaper is interviewing Joe tomorrow -- so
apparently *they* think it's a pretty rare achievement, too.
--

Won't that depend on the salary offered? I hope they don't offer him less
than starting pay for a commuter pilot.

LOL!

I worked in newspapers for 21 years, and I can vouch for the fact that
the pay there is nothing to write home about...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:


Well, the local newspaper is interviewing Joe tomorrow -- so
apparently *they* think it's a pretty rare achievement, too.


Well they could do a story here, every there months.

Don't mis-understand. It is an achievement. But the big achievement is,
we can teach anybody to fly; if somebody pays for it. Which is great
because it is a life altering experience.

Learning to fly is so systematized (is that a word?) that anybody can do
it. The real "rarity" is the ability to pay for it. Between you and me,
therein lies the dividing line. When you exclude the financial
considerations, it is something anybody's child could manage. And having
any kind of pilot's license does not make someone better than anybody
else. (My personal bugaboo.)

Where I sit, we have all kinds of children getting their ticket. And
they usually have millionaire parents. They arrive with a parent or in a
taxi. Go through the training in a normal amount of time. Then continue
on with horsey riding and marshal arts or archery. Don't blame the
messenger, it's the world we live in. We have a fantastic training
system. That's the big picture. My training, atpl, turboprop and
straight jet experience has not been hard, it's been fun. The ability to
pay is, at least to me, the achievement. And the cost these days, it is
a rare achievement. I also see people training, and straining at the
finances to keep going. I can't believe how expensive it is now compared
to 35 years ago. And there are no shortage of students of any age. ???

I have probably offended you and I apologize. I have always wanted to
pop into your hotel; I can tell you would prefer I not. Fair enough.

I have kids not appreciating what is being handed to them. (Not to say
yours wasn't.) You should be proud. Joe is a hardworking boy and he did
it! I hope it empowers him, to take on anything that interests him. Not
trying is the only failure. Getting a pilot's license is not the end,
but the beginning.

I have financed three ppl's for 17 year olds. And nobody owes me a
thing. You should be proud, and you are. I am too. I don't have any
children myself. If I did they would be flying along with getting their
drivers license.

Joe. More power to ya! You can take on anything you want.
And I hope you do! It won't make sense right now, but often we,
ourselves, are the only person holding us back. And that has been my big
mistake in life. Fear of failure. Talk with your parents and face your
challenges head on. Yes, hard work is hard, but it brings a great
feeling of security I can't explain here but I hope you come to know.

And Jay, I expect an online link, to the article.....

"The Visitor" wrote

You should be proud. Joe is a hardworking boy and he did it! I hope it
empowers him, to take on anything that interests him.

A big agreement, and congratulations, but I've got to get on my soap-box,
for a moment.

Tell him to lose the hair growing off his chin, until he can do a real thick
one, all over; not just in a few places.

Young men his age as a whole, do not realize that in trying to look old and
mature by growing facial hair, that a thin growth only reinforces the fact
that they are not able to do a proper beard, and instead of looking older,
they look younger and less mature.

He would look much more mature with a clean chin, in my opinion. (and many
other fuddy duddies)

Some people with a fair complexion and light hair color may never be able to
grow a good beard. Me included. It does not make me, or anyone else, any
less of a man. It means I am more evolved from the cave man! g Since I
can't, the best thing is to not try.

Soapbox=off

Congrats again, for you and Joe!
--
Jim in NC

Learning to fly is so systematized (is that a word?) that anybody can do
it. The real "rarity" is the ability to pay for it.

At least around here, the rarity is the ability to stick with it.
Paying for it, as I've pointed out repeatedly, costs no more than a
semester of college, or the price of a late '90s Chevy Lumina.

Where I sit, we have all kinds of children getting their ticket. And
they usually have millionaire parents.

That is truly a rarity around here. Of course, there are probably
fewer millionaires in Iowa, but it also seems that kids and parents
are more grounded in reality.

Joe had to work to pay for his flight lessons -- period. Although we
obviously helped and encouraged him, there was no free ride.

I have probably offended you and I apologize. I have always wanted to
pop into your hotel; I can tell you would prefer I not. Fair enough.

I'm apparently missing something here, cuz I don't feel offended in
the least. This is Usenet -- if I got offended every time someone
expressed a divergent point of view, I'd be a basket case by now...

I have financed three ppl's for 17 year olds. And nobody owes me a
thing.

Outstanding! We need more of that in this world.

And Jay, I expect an online link, to the article.....

Presuming they actually write it, I'll provide it.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Tell him to lose the hair growing off his chin, until he can do a real thick
one, all over; not just in a few places.

Couldn't agree more, Jim. I think it looks ridiculous -- but his
girlfriend apparently likes it.

You know the old saying: "You can tell a 17 year old, but you can't
tell him a lot!" Man, is it true!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

You can learn to fly, even today, for the cost of a good set of golf clubs
and a membership in a modest club.


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
...
| Learning to fly is so systematized (is that a word?) that anybody can do
| it. The real "rarity" is the ability to pay for it.
|
| At least around here, the rarity is the ability to stick with it.
| Paying for it, as I've pointed out repeatedly, costs no more than a
| semester of college, or the price of a late '90s Chevy Lumina.
|
| Where I sit, we have all kinds of children getting their ticket. And
| they usually have millionaire parents.
|
| That is truly a rarity around here. Of course, there are probably
| fewer millionaires in Iowa, but it also seems that kids and parents
| are more grounded in reality.
|
| Joe had to work to pay for his flight lessons -- period. Although we
| obviously helped and encouraged him, there was no free ride.
|
| I have probably offended you and I apologize. I have always wanted to
| pop into your hotel; I can tell you would prefer I not. Fair enough.
|
| I'm apparently missing something here, cuz I don't feel offended in
| the least. This is Usenet -- if I got offended every time someone
| expressed a divergent point of view, I'd be a basket case by now...
|
| I have financed three ppl's for 17 year olds. And nobody owes me a
| thing.
|
| Outstanding! We need more of that in this world.
|
| And Jay, I expect an online link, to the article.....
|
| Presuming they actually write it, I'll provide it.
| --
| Jay Honeck
| Iowa City, IA
| Pathfinder N56993
| www.AlexisParkInn.com
| "Your Aviation Destination"

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:19:26 -0800 (PST), Jay Honeck wrote:

Tell him to lose the hair growing off his chin, until he can do a real thick
one, all over; not just in a few places.

Couldn't agree more, Jim. I think it looks ridiculous -- but his
girlfriend apparently likes it.

Then you're doomed.

You know the old saying: "You can tell a 17 year old, but you can't
tell him a lot!" Man, is it true!

;-)

Don't forget you're not talking to his hard drive, you"re feeding his
memory stick.
--
Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!