RIP Cessna...Skycatcher

Mxsmanic wrote in
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john smith writes:

According to this mornings WSJ, Cessna's Pelton is quoted as saying
that by building the Skycatcher in China, the cost is $71k less than
it would cost to build in the USA.
I wonder how much of that is liability insurance and how much is
labor?

And how much is profit?


Oh, maybe you didn;t go to bizness skool after all.


Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote in
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James Sleeman writes:

Do you honestly think that CESSNA is going to stake thier name,
reputation, and conceivably risk the entire business by going with an
aircraft manufacturer who would produce shoddy unreliable or dangerous
aircraft?!

Yes. The quest for short-term profits makes companies do strange things.

More so, do you honestly think that either Cessna OR your country's
respective aviation authorities are going to let obviously shoddy
unreliable or dangerous aircraft get anywhere near the hands of Joe
Bloggs the pilot?!

Yes. Just because it passes a few tests doesn't mean that it's safe.

Cessna have obviously done thier homework, they have weighed the pros
and cons, and at the end of the day, the most effective solution
presented itself.

The most profitable, you mean.

To decry the aircraft on the sole fact that it will be constructed in
China simply smacks of xenophobia.

Sometimes xenophobia is justified.


Yeh, right, you racist fjukkwit.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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James Sleeman writes:

Do you honestly think that CESSNA is going to stake thier name,
reputation, and conceivably risk the entire business by going with an
aircraft manufacturer who would produce shoddy unreliable or dangerous
aircraft?!

Yes. The quest for short-term profits makes companies do strange things.

More so, do you honestly think that either Cessna OR your country's
respective aviation authorities are going to let obviously shoddy
unreliable or dangerous aircraft get anywhere near the hands of Joe
Bloggs the pilot?!

Yes. Just because it passes a few tests doesn't mean that it's safe.


You know nothing about engineering, nothing about flying,

You're a fjukkwit.


Bertie

"F. Baum" wrote in news:3fb9ecf9-ef79-470e-a8f8-
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On Nov 28, 11:07 am, Jay Honeck wrote:

Dang, it's hard to find ANYTHING not made in China anymore. I've
noticed that even many of the books I've been buying lately are from
China now...

Jay, I didnt know you could read.


He can't


Bertie

There goes my respect for Cessna.

-c

"Phil" wrote in message
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Eventually Wordperfect lost out in the market to superior products.
Time will tell if this happens to the Skycatcher.

It was purchased and destroyed. Notice how much Microsoft Word looked like
old Wordperfect? Sorta like how Excel looked a lot like the early Windows
versions of Lotus 1-2-3. Buy 'em, make an "update" that turns to product
to total crap and then sell your conspicuously-identical version that
actually works.

Who would do a thing like that?

-c

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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I'd demand my deposit back.

Me, too.

Dang, it's hard to find ANYTHING not made in China anymore. I've
noticed that even many of the books I've been buying lately are from
China now...

That's because we alre allowing ourselves to become the United States of
China. They could use the profits, though. Lots of underprivelaged and
oppressed people there, so they need the money to build ships, tanks and
nukes to keep everybody in line.


-c

"Jim Stewart" wrote in message
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wrote:
Now here is a question I have. How come Cessna says that they can't
build the Skycatcher profitably in the USA and meet the price point
they set but yet AMD is able to build their ZODIAC in the states and
advertise an IFR variant for under 100k. It's not like the aircraft
are all that different. Both are made of aluminum and both have the
O-200. Cessna's logic just dosen't make much sense to me.

I'll wager a guess that it might make
more sense if we knew what Cessna's
definition of "profit" is.

Bingo. They can make it for less in China. That makes more profit.

"James Sleeman" wrote in message
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Do you honestly think that CESSNA is going to stake thier name,
reputation, and conceivably risk the entire business by going with an
aircraft manufacturer who would produce shoddy unreliable or dangerous
aircraft?!

Mattel did.

It's not about the company reputation, it's about maximizing profit for the
investors and the upper management. (Remember "Wal-Mart: Made in USA"?)
We had this discussion with a real-live MBA here earlier this week.

Please, at least show some common sense here.

We are giving our country away and elevating a communist super power with
some of the largest human rights abuse issues in the world. They're taking
our money and making missiles, aircraft and guns to sell to our enemies
while they tolerate software, music and movie piracy. If you dissent you
disappear.

Trade with China is not about common sense. It's about profits and bonuses.

-c

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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I'd demand my deposit back.

Me, too.

Dang, it's hard to find ANYTHING not made in China anymore. I've
noticed that even many of the books I've been buying lately are from
China now...

So is the Garlic you buy from Wall-Mart.

--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"