Barf bags don't work in zero G's

Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
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Aviv Hod wrote:
Fellow pilots, let's be nicer to our passengers than this pilot
apparently is. If anyone in the plane has a bag at the ready,
it's not a good time to pull zero G maneuvers!!

http://www.break.com/index/barf-bags...k-at-0-gs.html

This is pretty funny though :-)

-Aviv
In my opinion this pilot would not end up on my list of people I
would recommend.
This "stunt" is unwise as a general rule, especially in aircraft
like this one; especially loaded with passengers; especially with
baggage in the baggage compartment; especially with that baggage
not tied down and secured; and most importantly, especially at the
high rate of forward pressure this pilot was obviously using to
"create the effect". It's very possible to take these airplanes
right on through 0 g and into negative g if this is done fast
enough and these airplanes are not designed for that. Carried to
the extreme, this "stunt" could cause real structural problems.
And all this doesn't even address the fact that at least one
passenger on this flight was taken from the role of passenger and
made a victim by this totally inappropriate, unprofessional, and
unnecessary act of stupidity by this pilot.
Demonstrating things like this in a loaded airplane is not the way
to impress the ladies.
I hope I've made my point on this perfectly clear.

Waht was that first part again?


Bertie
Bad JuJu :-)


Yep. What an asshole!
When I used to give aerobatic rides in the Stearmans, we had our
share of casualties. We always briefed a signal if the passenger was
getting uncomfortable. Sometimes it caught up on them, though and if
you saw a head going over the cockpit side your foot went down on the
same side quick-ish so you didn't get a faceful yourself. A couple of
people just put their head 'twxth their knees, but fortunately, the
Stearman had a removable pan beneath the cockpits you could release
with a few dzus and a quick hosing our was all that was needed.
Now there's a well thought out airplane.



Bertie




I've tried that rudder trick myself in a Great Lakes....with mixed
results :-))
The Stearman is a great airplane. We had a 450 on the field I flew
once in a while with the owner. Don't know if you ever had the chance
to fly the 450. It was a whole new airplane. I remember laughing to
myself on my first takeoff. I didn't have the power in before I broke
ground. The nose visuals were about the same as the
Mustang.....non-existent :-))


Most of my time is in Lyc and Contineal powered ones. The only 450 I
flew was a duster and it weighed so much it went about the same as the
stock ones!


Bertie

Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in news:zO-
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Aviv Hod wrote:
Fellow pilots, let's be nicer to our passengers than this pilot
apparently is. If anyone in the plane has a bag at the ready, it's
not a good time to pull zero G maneuvers!!

http://www.break.com/index/barf-bags...k-at-0-gs.html

This is pretty funny though :-)

-Aviv
In my opinion this pilot would not end up on my list of people I
would recommend.
This "stunt" is unwise as a general rule, especially in aircraft
like this one; especially loaded with passengers; especially with
baggage in the baggage compartment; especially with that baggage not
tied down and secured; and most importantly, especially at the high
rate of forward pressure this pilot was obviously using to "create
the effect". It's very possible to take these airplanes right on
through 0 g and into negative g if this is done fast enough and
these airplanes are not designed for that. Carried to the extreme,
this "stunt" could cause real structural problems.
And all this doesn't even address the fact that at least one
passenger on this flight was taken from the role of passenger and
made a victim by this totally inappropriate, unprofessional, and
unnecessary act of stupidity by this pilot.
Demonstrating things like this in a loaded airplane is not the way
to impress the ladies.
I hope I've made my point on this perfectly clear.


Waht was that first part again?


Bertie

Kind of like reading "Sale of Two Titties".....wait....that's "Tale of
two Cities I think.

Begins with
"It was a day like any other day"....ends with..

"Twas a far better thing I have done that I ever did before"

The rest is just the middle part :-))


Just pulling yur chain,,


Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in news:zO-
:

Aviv Hod wrote:
Fellow pilots, let's be nicer to our passengers than this pilot
apparently is. If anyone in the plane has a bag at the ready,
it's not a good time to pull zero G maneuvers!!

http://www.break.com/index/barf-bags...k-at-0-gs.html

This is pretty funny though :-)

-Aviv
In my opinion this pilot would not end up on my list of people I
would recommend.
This "stunt" is unwise as a general rule, especially in aircraft
like this one; especially loaded with passengers; especially with
baggage in the baggage compartment; especially with that baggage
not tied down and secured; and most importantly, especially at the
high rate of forward pressure this pilot was obviously using to
"create the effect". It's very possible to take these airplanes
right on through 0 g and into negative g if this is done fast
enough and these airplanes are not designed for that. Carried to
the extreme, this "stunt" could cause real structural problems.
And all this doesn't even address the fact that at least one
passenger on this flight was taken from the role of passenger and
made a victim by this totally inappropriate, unprofessional, and
unnecessary act of stupidity by this pilot.
Demonstrating things like this in a loaded airplane is not the way
to impress the ladies.
I hope I've made my point on this perfectly clear.

Waht was that first part again?


Bertie
Bad JuJu :-)

Yep. What an asshole!
When I used to give aerobatic rides in the Stearmans, we had our
share of casualties. We always briefed a signal if the passenger was
getting uncomfortable. Sometimes it caught up on them, though and if
you saw a head going over the cockpit side your foot went down on the
same side quick-ish so you didn't get a faceful yourself. A couple of
people just put their head 'twxth their knees, but fortunately, the
Stearman had a removable pan beneath the cockpits you could release
with a few dzus and a quick hosing our was all that was needed.
Now there's a well thought out airplane.



Bertie




I've tried that rudder trick myself in a Great Lakes....with mixed
results :-))
The Stearman is a great airplane. We had a 450 on the field I flew
once in a while with the owner. Don't know if you ever had the chance
to fly the 450. It was a whole new airplane. I remember laughing to
myself on my first takeoff. I didn't have the power in before I broke
ground. The nose visuals were about the same as the
Mustang.....non-existent :-))


Most of my time is in Lyc and Contineal powered ones. The only 450 I
flew was a duster and it weighed so much it went about the same as the
stock ones!


Bertie



I had the same feeling. Better nose vis in the standard and the 450 was
heavy as hell in the glide. Great airplanes though and a whole lot of
fun. Flying open is a special experience :-)


--
Dudley Henriques

On 2007-11-28 20:56:44 -0800, Aviv Hod
said:

Fellow pilots, let's be nicer to our passengers than this pilot
apparently is. If anyone in the plane has a bag at the ready, it's not
a good time to pull zero G maneuvers!!

http://www.break.com/index/barf-bags...k-at-0-gs.html

This is pretty funny though :-)

-Aviv

Yeah. Hysterical. About as funny as watching someone get raped or beat up.

This has to be just about one of the stupidest things I have ever seen.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

Dudley Henriques wrote in
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I had the same feeling. Better nose vis in the standard and the 450 was
heavy as hell in the glide. Great airplanes though and a whole lot of
fun. Flying open is a special experience :-)



Only way to go in my book. Stearman was a great aerobatic trainer.
Virtually unburstable (except the prop, of course) and demanding enough to
do aerobatics in, but it was no Waco...
The Lakes was even better, but I got only a little time in them.


Bertie

In my opinion this pilot would not end up on my list of people I would
recommend.

No kidding. Not only is it a bad idea to pull partial G's when one of your
pax is already holding the yak bag, that's gotta be the fastest way to spend
a Friday night alone on the couch wishing the two hotties in the back of
your airplane didn't think you were a total jackass.

However, I confess I took a girl through the maneuvers back in
college...while she was holding an open Dr. Pepper and wearing a new white
coat.

-c

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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Yeah. Hysterical. About as funny as watching someone get raped or beat up.

This has to be just about one of the stupidest things I have ever seen.

Well, if it had been some fratboy in the back (and the pilot owned the plane
so it wasn't stunk up for some renter) that would have been a quite amusing.

What's hysterical is that there's no way in hell that pilot got laid that
night. That's funny.

-c

Aviv Hod wrote:
Fellow pilots, let's be nicer to our passengers than this pilot
apparently is. If anyone in the plane has a bag at the ready, it's not
a good time to pull zero G maneuvers!!

http://www.break.com/index/barf-bags...k-at-0-gs.html

This is pretty funny though :-)

If you are an idiot.

Dudley Henriques wrote:
Aviv Hod wrote:
Fellow pilots, let's be nicer to our passengers than this pilot
apparently is. If anyone in the plane has a bag at the ready, it's
not a good time to pull zero G maneuvers!!

http://www.break.com/index/barf-bags...k-at-0-gs.html

This is pretty funny though :-)

-Aviv

In my opinion this pilot would not end up on my list of people I would
recommend.
This "stunt" is unwise as a general rule, especially in aircraft like
this one; especially loaded with passengers; especially with baggage in
the baggage compartment; especially with that baggage not tied down and
secured; and most importantly, especially at the high rate of forward
pressure this pilot was obviously using to "create the effect".
It's very possible to take these airplanes right on through 0 g and into
negative g if this is done fast enough and these airplanes are not
designed for that. Carried to the extreme, this "stunt" could cause real
structural problems.
And all this doesn't even address the fact that at least one passenger
on this flight was taken from the role of passenger and made a victim by
this totally inappropriate, unprofessional, and unnecessary act of
stupidity by this pilot.
Demonstrating things like this in a loaded airplane is not the way to
impress the ladies.
I hope I've made my point on this perfectly clear.

Dudley, it took you a lot of words to say that this pilot is a flaming
idiot ... but I agree with you 100%. :-)

Matt

Matt Whiting wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote:
Aviv Hod wrote:
Fellow pilots, let's be nicer to our passengers than this pilot
apparently is. If anyone in the plane has a bag at the ready, it's
not a good time to pull zero G maneuvers!!

http://www.break.com/index/barf-bags...k-at-0-gs.html

This is pretty funny though :-)

-Aviv

In my opinion this pilot would not end up on my list of people I would
recommend.
This "stunt" is unwise as a general rule, especially in aircraft like
this one; especially loaded with passengers; especially with baggage
in the baggage compartment; especially with that baggage not tied down
and secured; and most importantly, especially at the high rate of
forward pressure this pilot was obviously using to "create the effect".
It's very possible to take these airplanes right on through 0 g and
into negative g if this is done fast enough and these airplanes are
not designed for that. Carried to the extreme, this "stunt" could
cause real structural problems.
And all this doesn't even address the fact that at least one passenger
on this flight was taken from the role of passenger and made a victim
by this totally inappropriate, unprofessional, and unnecessary act of
stupidity by this pilot.
Demonstrating things like this in a loaded airplane is not the way to
impress the ladies.
I hope I've made my point on this perfectly clear.

Dudley, it took you a lot of words to say that this pilot is a flaming
idiot ... but I agree with you 100%. :-)

Matt

It's the old CFI in me. Just saying someone is an idiot doesn't finish
the job for me. Stating the exact REASON he's an idiot just might help
keep someone reading my posts from getting hurt.
Keeping people alive in airplanes is an ingrained habit with me I guess.
Otherwise, please excuse any perceived tendency toward being overly
pedantic (which I can of course be at times :-)


--
Dudley Henriques