Barf bags don't work in zero G's

kontiki wrote in newsXc4j.21470$ya1.4678
@news02.roc.ny:

Dale wrote:


What do parachutes have to do with it? Easy to do that without
exceeding 30 degrees of pitch.

I thought they were required for any aerobatics... (it looked like
a loop to me, quality wasn't that good)... The point though, is...
would you take your family out and do aerobatics with them and not
have them wear parachutes? I wouldn't. I had to wear one just when
I was a jump pilot and we never exceeded 30 in pitch. Maybe I'm
just too conservative.

I still think the pilot is an idiot.

He was, but what he did was a bump. Pitch up, push over hard. He pushed
hard enough to flood the carb at one point. Parachutes would have been next
to useless anyway. Not much chance of getting out of a 172 at the sort of
speeds it would have been going and the people on board would more than
likely not have been clued up enough to get out anyway.
Lots of people do this and it's not all that dangerous, though with a full
pax complement the aircraft's Loading margins are reduced significantly
(that's one reason why utility category has a higher G allowance),but why
not just get an aerobatic airplane and do it right anyway?
Aside from anything else it's more fun.


Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
kontiki wrote in newsXc4j.21470$ya1.4678
@news02.roc.ny:

Dale wrote:

What do parachutes have to do with it? Easy to do that without
exceeding 30 degrees of pitch.
I thought they were required for any aerobatics... (it looked like
a loop to me, quality wasn't that good)... The point though, is...
would you take your family out and do aerobatics with them and not
have them wear parachutes? I wouldn't. I had to wear one just when
I was a jump pilot and we never exceeded 30 in pitch. Maybe I'm
just too conservative.

I still think the pilot is an idiot.

He was, but what he did was a bump. Pitch up, push over hard. He pushed
hard enough to flood the carb at one point. Parachutes would have been next
to useless anyway. Not much chance of getting out of a 172 at the sort of
speeds it would have been going and the people on board would more than
likely not have been clued up enough to get out anyway.
Lots of people do this and it's not all that dangerous, though with a full
pax complement the aircraft's Loading margins are reduced significantly
(that's one reason why utility category has a higher G allowance),but why
not just get an aerobatic airplane and do it right anyway?
Aside from anything else it's more fun.


Bertie

Best post in the thread :-))

--
Dudley Henriques

Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
kontiki wrote in newsXc4j.21470$ya1.4678
@news02.roc.ny:

Dale wrote:

What do parachutes have to do with it? Easy to do that without
exceeding 30 degrees of pitch.
I thought they were required for any aerobatics... (it looked like
a loop to me, quality wasn't that good)... The point though, is...
would you take your family out and do aerobatics with them and not
have them wear parachutes? I wouldn't. I had to wear one just when
I was a jump pilot and we never exceeded 30 in pitch. Maybe I'm
just too conservative.

I still think the pilot is an idiot.

He was, but what he did was a bump. Pitch up, push over hard. He
pushed hard enough to flood the carb at one point. Parachutes would
have been next to useless anyway. Not much chance of getting out of a
172 at the sort of speeds it would have been going and the people on
board would more than likely not have been clued up enough to get out
anyway. Lots of people do this and it's not all that dangerous,
though with a full pax complement the aircraft's Loading margins are
reduced significantly (that's one reason why utility category has a
higher G allowance),but why not just get an aerobatic airplane and do
it right anyway? Aside from anything else it's more fun.


Bertie

Best post in the thread :-))


Thenkew, I have my moments,,


Bertie

In article ,
kontiki wrote:

Dale wrote:


What do parachutes have to do with it? Easy to do that without
exceeding 30 degrees of pitch.

I thought they were required for any aerobatics... (it looked like
a loop to me, quality wasn't that good)... The point though, is...
would you take your family out and do aerobatics with them and not
have them wear parachutes? I wouldn't. I had to wear one just when
I was a jump pilot and we never exceeded 30 in pitch. Maybe I'm
just too conservative.

I still think the pilot is an idiot.

All he did was a pushover to to zero/negative G.

If flying a Cessna to haul jumpers wearing the parachute is a
requirement of the STC for flight with the door open.

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
news:2007112910284143658-christophercampbell@hotmailcom...
On 2007-11-28 20:56:44 -0800, Aviv Hod
said:

Fellow pilots, let's be nicer to our passengers than this pilot
apparently is. If anyone in the plane has a bag at the ready, it's not a
good time to pull zero G maneuvers!!

http://www.break.com/index/barf-bags...k-at-0-gs.html

This is pretty funny though :-)

-Aviv

Yeah. Hysterical. About as funny as watching someone get raped or beat up.

This has to be just about one of the stupidest things I have ever seen.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor


How can you say that?
The pilot CLEARLY was competent - he had epilates with gold strips and the
hat to match.
Did you miss the discusson on how improtant it is to dress properly when
flying over on R.A.Owning?
/smartass=off

--
Geoff
The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
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When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.

Dale wrote:


All he did was a pushover to to zero/negative G.

If flying a Cessna to haul jumpers wearing the parachute is a
requirement of the STC for flight with the door open.

Okay, well It looked like a loop to me.... it was somewhat
blurry in my crappy computer. Anyway... other aviation
ignorant people might interpret it in a negative way. Maybe
he was just a dumbass for posting it on YouBoob. I still
think he was an idiot. I wouldn't have done that with pax.

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

He was, but what he did was a bump. Pitch up, push over hard. He pushed
hard enough to flood the carb at one point. Parachutes would have been next
to useless anyway. Not much chance of getting out of a 172 at the sort of
speeds it would have been going and the people on board would more than
likely not have been clued up enough to get out anyway.
Lots of people do this and it's not all that dangerous, though with a full
pax complement the aircraft's Loading margins are reduced significantly
(that's one reason why utility category has a higher G allowance),but why
not just get an aerobatic airplane and do it right anyway?
Aside from anything else it's more fun.



I concurr... and yes, the chance of a back pax getting out with a chute
is a crapshoot if a wing breaks off of a Cessna in flight. Some of the
best fun I've had was doing aerobatics in a Boeing Stearman.... but I
had a chute on and an easy way to get out.

kontiki wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

He was, but what he did was a bump. Pitch up, push over hard. He
pushed hard enough to flood the carb at one point. Parachutes would
have been next to useless anyway. Not much chance of getting out of a
172 at the sort of speeds it would have been going and the people on
board would more than likely not have been clued up enough to get out
anyway. Lots of people do this and it's not all that dangerous,
though with a full pax complement the aircraft's Loading margins are
reduced significantly (that's one reason why utility category has a
higher G allowance),but why not just get an aerobatic airplane and do
it right anyway? Aside from anything else it's more fun.



I concurr... and yes, the chance of a back pax getting out with a
chute is a crapshoot if a wing breaks off of a Cessna in flight. Some
of the best fun I've had was doing aerobatics in a Boeing Stearman....
but I had a chute on and an easy way to get out

Xachery. It's less than a crapshoot, really, the chances are almost nil. I
read an account of a guy who had to get out of his Citabria a while back
and he had trouble even with that.




Bertie

Dale wrote in news:notme-88037E.10111301122007
@news.gci.net:

In article ,
kontiki wrote:

Dale wrote:


What do parachutes have to do with it? Easy to do that without
exceeding 30 degrees of pitch.

I thought they were required for any aerobatics... (it looked like
a loop to me, quality wasn't that good)... The point though, is...
would you take your family out and do aerobatics with them and not
have them wear parachutes? I wouldn't. I had to wear one just when
I was a jump pilot and we never exceeded 30 in pitch. Maybe I'm
just too conservative.

I still think the pilot is an idiot.

All he did was a pushover to to zero/negative G.

If flying a Cessna to haul jumpers wearing the parachute is a
requirement of the STC for flight with the door open.



Yeah, but the door opens in a completely diffeent way, for one thing.



Bertie