Rental Checkride?

"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote in
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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B A R R Y wrote in news:H5Y5j.30695$Pv2.21285
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Dallas wrote:

Is this a little stiff or is it the normal practice?


It's more normal than not, in my experience.

On past sightseeing trips in places I don't go to often, I've just
brought the CFI with us, skipping the formal checkride.




Wise anyway. When I was a kid, one of the CFIs at the place I was
working gave one of his buds who had been flying a 727 for a living
fly a rental cherokee after only a couple of minutes checkout.
half an hour later, a 110 knot approach and touchdown rendered a
brand new cherokee environmentally friendly.


Bertie

How bad did he screw it up?


He porpoised and bent the nosewheel up into the belly. Firewall, engine
mount, sudden stoppage..

He was in and out of the office for a couple of weeks and he admonished
me to stop snickering at him every time he came in..


Bertie

This is an excellent point Peter. I have never come away from an episode
of dual instruction without
feeling I had improved or restored some skill, or learned something
operational that I had never considered.

Sometimes, if there is an age, or experience, difference between myself and
the instructor I suggest
that even if they are an absolute hard ass about how I conduct myself in the
airplane for the next hour or two that
I'm still as likely to be a good friend and a frequent flying partner. I
am expecting a learner/mentor relationship
even in a straightforward rental check and am looking forward to a good
workout.

Also consider, unless the boys in the other thread successfully reform our
tort system-- the young men and women
who check us out, and the barely profitable operations which rent the
airplanes to us, are engendering some liability
when they engage us as customers. I am suprised most operations are not
more "defensive."

Todd


"Peter R." wrote in message
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Look at it this way: It is always valuable to have a different instructor
evaluating your piloting skills. If you are fortunate you might actually
receive some previously unknown tips or lessons from the instructor during
your checkride.

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Peter

On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 13:46:08 -0500, Peter R. wrote:

I had to go through a three hours checkride for a C172S rental,
a model in which I had about 500 hours at the time

Three hours? Can I assume a large part of that was on the ground?

Did you consider those requirements fair?


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Dallas

Dallas,

Is this a little stiff or is it the normal practice?


Totally normal.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Todd W. Deckard wrote:
This is an excellent point Peter. I have never come away from an episode
of dual instruction without
feeling I had improved or restored some skill, or learned something
operational that I had never considered.

The Wings program has a flight portion for a reason.

On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 12:23:36 -0600, Dallas
wrote:


I was just checking the rental terms at an FBO in the city I plan to visit
over Christmas.

I've got most of my hours in the type I wanted to rent and the FBO said
they want 3 takes offs and landings, then a power on and power off stall.
They charge the time to do this as dual.

I can see 20 minutes of landings, then a climb to do the power on and off
stalls... depending on traffic, it seems like it would take .75 to 1.0 dual
hobbs time. Basically, I'd spend more money on the checkride than I
intended to spend on the actual flight.

Is this a little stiff or is it the normal practice?

Our club requires an annual checkride with one of the instructors. The
catch there though is that the standing advice is to try and save some
money they recommend doing it as a Biennual so that you will always be
up to date or at the very least not have to pay for a checkride for
each. Slightly more involved than the checkout that the FBO is
requiring but then all your bases are covered.

B A R R Y wrote:
Dallas wrote:

Is this a little stiff or is it the normal practice?


It's more normal than not, in my experience.

On past sightseeing trips in places I don't go to often, I've just
brought the CFI with us, skipping the formal checkride.
That's what I have done on two different occasions. I see no point in
spending an hour or two getting checked out when all that you want to do
is sight see for an hour. Plus, some CFIs can be awfully good tour
guides since they know the area.

It's a very good idea if your just on vacation and won't be back again for
more then 90 days. I've done it several times as well and it works out
fine...
John

"Arnold Sten" wrote in message
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B A R R Y wrote:
Dallas wrote:
Is this a little stiff or is it the normal practice?


It's more normal than not, in my experience.

On past sightseeing trips in places I don't go to often, I've just
brought the CFI with us, skipping the formal checkride.
That's what I have done on two different occasions. I see no point in
spending an hour or two getting checked out when all that you want to do
is sight see for an hour. Plus, some CFIs can be awfully good tour guides
since they know the area.

On 6 Dec, 18:23, Dallas wrote:
I was just checking the rental terms at an FBO in the city I plan to visit
over Christmas.

I've got most of my hours in the type I wanted to rent and the FBO said
they want 3 takes offs and landings, then a power on and power off stall.
They charge the time to do this as dual.

I can see 20 minutes of landings, then a climb to do the power on and off
stalls... depending on traffic, it seems like it would take .75 to 1.0 dual
hobbs time. Basically, I'd spend more money on the checkride than I
intended to spend on the actual flight.

Is this a little stiff or is it the normal practice?

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Dallas

Normal, and I have a number of times used the rental checkout as a BFR
too. Its good value for money then.

It is what I would want to see if I was letting you borrow my plane.

On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 00:21:10 -0800 (PST), wrote:

It is what I would want to see if I was letting you borrow my plane.

Look what we get used to in this endeavor of ours:

At a Chicago Avis rental counter:

"I'd like to rent a Ford Taurus."

"Fine, I need to see your Driver's Licence and log of every mile you've
ever driven in your lifetime. Then you'll need to rent the car from us for
half a day, at your own expense of course, then drive around while our
manager of driving assurance decides whether or not we want to rent the car
to you. By the way, you'll have to pay the manager of driving assurance
while he evaluates you."

"But, I just rented and put 200 miles on a Ford Taurus in Denver... here's
the paperwork."

"Matters not... Just because you can drive a Ford Taurus in Denver doesn't
mean you can drive one in Chicago."

:-)

I'm goofing here, but would an FAA supplied rental currency form that could
be signed by a CFI stating that you have been checked out and found to be
proficient in a type work? That way you wouldn't need to be checked out
every single time you went to a new FBO.


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Dallas