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"Maxwell" wrote in :
"Larry Dighera" wrote in message ... Of course, in the event of simulated IMC (hood work) the safety pilot (usually the CFI) is a required crew member. Granted a safety pilot is often a CFI, but do the FARs even require this persons to be certificated? As an instructor? No. Just qualified in category and class. Bertie |
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On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 15:18:36 -0600, "Maxwell"
wrote: "Larry Dighera" wrote in message .. . Of course, in the event of simulated IMC (hood work) the safety pilot (usually the CFI) is a required crew member. Granted a safety pilot is often a CFI, but do the FARs even require this persons to be certificated? 91.109(b)(1). |
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On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 15:18:36 -0600, "Maxwell"
wrote: "Larry Dighera" wrote in message .. . Of course, in the event of simulated IMC (hood work) the safety pilot (usually the CFI) is a required crew member. Granted a safety pilot is often a CFI, but do the FARs even require this persons to be certificated? Think of it this way. If the PIC is flying blind in VMC, how can he comply with the see-and-avoid regulations? If the safety pilot is not does not hold an airmans certificate, how can he be expected to comply with the see-and-avoid regulations? How would you feel about sharing the skies with non-certificated aircraft operators? http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text... .1.3.10.2.4.5 § 91.109 Flight instruction; Simulated instrument flight and certain flight tests. (a) No person may operate a civil aircraft (except a manned free balloon) that is being used for flight instruction unless that aircraft has fully functioning dual controls. However, instrument flight instruction may be given in a single-engine airplane equipped with a single, functioning throwover control wheel in place of fixed, dual controls of the elevator and ailerons when— (1) The instructor has determined that the flight can be conducted safely; and (2) The person manipulating the controls has at least a private pilot certificate with appropriate category and class ratings. (b) No person may operate a civil aircraft in simulated instrument flight unless— (1) The other control seat is occupied by a safety pilot who possesses at least a private pilot certificate with category and class ratings appropriate to the aircraft being flown. (2) The safety pilot has adequate vision forward and to each side of the aircraft, or a competent observer in the aircraft adequately supplements the vision of the safety pilot; and (3) Except in the case of lighter-than-air aircraft, that aircraft is equipped with fully functioning dual controls. However, simulated instrument flight may be conducted in a single-engine airplane, equipped with a single, functioning, throwover control wheel, in place of fixed, dual controls of the elevator and ailerons, when— (i) The safety pilot has determined that the flight can be conducted safely; and (ii) The person manipulating the controls has at least a private pilot certificate with appropriate category and class ratings. (c) No person may operate a civil aircraft that is being used for a flight test for an airline transport pilot certificate or a class or type rating on that certificate, or for a part 121 proficiency flight test, unless the pilot seated at the controls, other than the pilot being checked, is fully qualified to act as pilot in command of the aircraft. |
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![]() "Maxwell" wrote in message ... Of course, in the event of simulated IMC (hood work) the safety pilot (usually the CFI) is a required crew member. Granted a safety pilot is often a CFI, but do the FARs even require this persons to be certificated? Goodness, the classic R.A.x response. Ask a simple, almost yes or no question, get three different answers. Thanks guys, I have no doubt you are all right. |
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I was actually navigating around FAA.gov last night in order to get
answers to questions of my own however on my CFI certificate in reads "not valid without certificate no. xxxxxxxx", which is my ATP. To excericse at least the commercial privelages one would need to maintain at least a class II medical. Am I reading this correctly? Bush On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 16:47:46 -0800 (PST), buttman wrote: 1) I've always been under the impression that a commercial certificate is required to get the instructor certificate, but once you have it, the commercial license is not needed anymore. This explains why you can still get paid to instruct and sign students off without a valid medical certificate. So if you were to forfeit your commercial pilots license, of if the FAA were to revoke it, you could still sign endorsements and do flight reviews. Is this correct? If so, whats the point of the words "Must be accompanied by pilot certificate #XXXXXXX" on the back of the instructor certificate? 2) On sectional charts, the tops of class D and class C airspace is listed as either [45] or [-45], meaning "up to and including 4,500ft", and "up to but not including 4,500ft" respectively. I'm wondering, whats the point of distinguishing between the tow? I assume one means basically "from the ground to 4,500ft", while the other one means "from the ground to 4,499ft". Whats the point? 3)Typically speaking, how do military airfields take to civilian traffic landing there? There are a few Navy and Air Force airfields in my area that I think would be pretty cool to do a touch and go at. Theres this one thats about 50 or so miles south of me called Lemoore which doesn't seem to be very busy at all. Heck, I think the tower even closes on weekends. They all say "transient traffic prohibited unless prior permission" in thr AFD, but how strict do they hold to that? I guess it's different from one place to the next, but generally speaking, if I were to call them up, will they laugh at my face? Will they be like "oh yeah sure, just call tower up before entering the class delta"? This goes for private airstrips too. I recently hit my goal of visiting every public use airport within a 100 mile radius of my home airport. Now I'll get started on the private use ones. 8) |
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On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 16:30:23 -0600, "Maxwell"
wrote: "Maxwell" wrote in message ... Of course, in the event of simulated IMC (hood work) the safety pilot (usually the CFI) is a required crew member. Granted a safety pilot is often a CFI, but do the FARs even require this persons to be certificated? Goodness, the classic R.A.x response. Ask a simple, almost yes or no question, get three different answers. Thanks guys, I have no doubt you are all right. We all referenced the rule contained in 91.109, where's the disccrepency in the answer? |
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On Dec 9, 5:39 pm, Bush wrote:
I was actually navigating around FAA.gov last night in order to get answers to questions of my own however on my CFI certificate in reads "not valid without certificate no. xxxxxxxx", which is my ATP. To excericse at least the commercial privelages one would need to maintain at least a class II medical. Am I reading this correctly? Bush When flying as a CFI, you are exercising the priviledges of your CFI certificate. A commercial certificate is required to be in your possession, but that does not mean you are using that certificate for your operation. At least that is my understanding. |
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![]() "Peter Clark" wrote in message ... On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 16:30:23 -0600, "Maxwell" wrote: "Maxwell" wrote in message ... Of course, in the event of simulated IMC (hood work) the safety pilot (usually the CFI) is a required crew member. Granted a safety pilot is often a CFI, but do the FARs even require this persons to be certificated? Goodness, the classic R.A.x response. Ask a simple, almost yes or no question, get three different answers. Thanks guys, I have no doubt you are all right. We all referenced the rule contained in 91.109, where's the disccrepency in the answer? No discrepancies, you are all correct. I was noting how much variation there was in each answer, yet they were all exactly correct. You gave only a number, and basically said go look it up. Bertie anwsered yes, and included catagory and type. And Lary wrote a justfication for the reg, posted a link, and the content of the reg for archival purposes. Not at all trying to roast anyone, just found a litte humor in three fact answers, all exactly correct, but very different. |
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kontiki writes:
You can instruct without having a valid medical IF you are not acting as PIC or required crew. I'm trying to think if that's even possible in a typical small airplane scenario. Well, I can give you one such scenario: I am going for my mountain checkout at the local flying club sometime in the next few weeks (whenever the weather cooperates). When I fly with my instructor, I presume I will be PIC, and the instructor is not required crew -- he is merely helping me learn some skills I did not previously have. I suspect he does not require a medical to do this (although he does actually have a medical, so this is moot). Chris |
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On Dec 10, 12:00 am, Christopher Brian Colohan
wrote: kontiki writes: You can instruct without having a valid medical IF you are not acting as PIC or required crew. I'm trying to think if that's even possible in a typical small airplane scenario. Well, I can give you one such scenario: I am going for my mountain checkout at the local flying club sometime in the next few weeks (whenever the weather cooperates). When I fly with my instructor, I presume I will be PIC, and the instructor is not required crew -- he is merely helping me learn some skills I did not previously have. I suspect he does not require a medical to do this (although he does actually have a medical, so this is moot). Chris He wouldn't even need a CFI certificate to do this, as "mountain checkout" is not a signoff mentioned in the FARs as needing to be done by a CFI. |
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