737 Blown Across Ramp

William Hung wrote:

Do small planes have parking brakes? I don't remember having ever
seen one that I could set the brakes.


Most do. The parking brake designs on early model 172s and 150/152s were
known for sticking in the "on" position. As such, many instructors would
either tell students not to use it, or not bother even telling the student
there was one (it was an inconspicuous knob on the lower panel). The
procedure for unsticking the brake involved several people pushing and
pulling on the plane until it freed up.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

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William Hung wrote:
On Dec 29, 11:57 am, Matt Whiting wrote:
JGalban via AviationKB.com wrote:
RST Engineering wrote:
No chocks, only tiedowns could have kept that aircraft from moving.
Chocks aren't perfect. At my home field we often get violent downbursts
from thunderstorms in the summer. Peak gusts of 60-70 kts aren't unusual. I
use both chocks and tiedowns, and I've found that after a particularly bad
storm, the chocks were often blown away from wheels and the plane was sitting
slightly sideways with the tiedowns pulled tight.
Yes, chocks are temporary restraints and no better on ice than are the
tires and brakes. Tie downs are the only way to go for permanent
restraint (other than a hangar!).

Matt

Do small planes have parking brakes? I don't remember having ever
seen one that I could set the brakes.

I can't speak for all small airplanes, but the Cessnas from the 150
through the 182 all have parking brakes as does the Piper Cherokee
family from the 160 through the Arrow.

Matt

On Dec 27 2007, 6:03 pm, Andy Hawkins wrote:
In article ,
Robert M. wrote:

On Dec 27, 3:18 pm, "Bob Gardner" wrote:
Chocks, Robert, chocks. Use your dictionary.

How do you know I don't use chalks?

I doubt they'd do much to stop a plane moving....

Andy

Chalks are for outlining the airplane during the investigation.

wrote in
:

On Dec 27 2007, 6:03 pm, Andy Hawkins wrote:
In article
,
Robert M. wrote:

On Dec 27, 3:18 pm, "Bob Gardner" wrote:
Chocks, Robert, chocks. Use your dictionary.

How do you know I don't use chalks?

I doubt they'd do much to stop a plane moving....

Andy

Chalks are for outlining the airplane during the investigation.


I thought chalks were used on the end of the cue so you could get
money to pay for flying. :-)

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Marty Shapiro
Silicon Rallye Inc.

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Hi,

In article ,
William wrote:
Do small planes have parking brakes? I don't remember having ever
seen one that I could set the brakes.

The Warriors I've flew (and the Cherokee I haven't) all have parking brakes.

Andy

On Jan 2, 4:14 am, Marty Shapiro
wrote:

I thought chalks were used on the end of the cue so you could get
money to pay for flying. :-)


That'll work for you, if you're playing against me ;(

On Dec 31 2007, 1:20*pm, William Hung wrote:
On Dec 29, 11:57*am, Matt Whiting wrote:

JGalban via AviationKB.com wrote:
RST Engineering wrote:
No chocks, only tiedowns could have kept that aircraft from moving.

* Chocks aren't perfect. * At my home field we often get violent downbursts
from thunderstorms in the summer. *Peak gusts of 60-70 kts aren't unusual. *I
use both chocks and tiedowns, and I've found that after a particularly bad
storm, the chocks were often blown away from wheels and the plane was sitting
slightly sideways with the tiedowns pulled tight.

Yes, chocks are temporary restraints and no better on ice than are the
tires and brakes. *Tie downs are the only way to go for permanent
restraint (other than a hangar!).

Matt

Do small planes have parking brakes? *I don't remember having ever
seen one that I could set the brakes.

Wil

Thank you Bertie, Barry, John Matt and Andy for your replies. I've
only flown in C150/2s and yes, my CFI hasn't pointed them out to me
yet.

Wil

William Hung wrote:
On Dec 31 2007, 1:20 pm, William Hung wrote:
Do small planes have parking brakes? I don't remember having ever
seen one that I could set the brakes.

Wil

Thank you Bertie, Barry, John Matt and Andy for your replies. I've
only flown in C150/2s and yes, my CFI hasn't pointed them out to me
yet.

Hasn't s/he introduced you to checklists yet? I'd expect them to be on a
decent checklist. (I've flown a 150 or 152 - too tall - so I don't know
for a fact they'd be there, but it's hard to believe not.)

William Hung wrote in
:

On Dec 31 2007, 1:20*pm, William Hung wrote:
On Dec 29, 11:57*am, Matt Whiting wrote:

JGalban via AviationKB.com wrote:
RST Engineering wrote:
No chocks, only tiedowns could have kept that aircraft from
moving.

* Chocks aren't perfect. * At my home field we often get violent
d
ownbursts
from thunderstorms in the summer. *Peak gusts of 60-70 kts aren't
un
usual. *I
use both chocks and tiedowns, and I've found that after a
particularly
bad
storm, the chocks were often blown away from wheels and the plane
was
sitting
slightly sideways with the tiedowns pulled tight.

Yes, chocks are temporary restraints and no better on ice than are
the tires and brakes. *Tie downs are the only way to go for
permanent restraint (other than a hangar!).

Matt

Do small planes have parking brakes? *I don't remember having ever
seen one that I could set the brakes.

Wil

Thank you Bertie, Barry, John Matt and Andy for your replies. I've
only flown in C150/2s and yes, my CFI hasn't pointed them out to me
yet.

Little handle down below somewhere. You push the toe brakes then pull
the handle and a small chatter strip grabs the the piston rod and holds
them on. They're not the easiest things to set or the most reliable.


Bertie

William Hung wrote:
On Dec 31 2007, 1:20 pm, William Hung wrote:
On Dec 29, 11:57 am, Matt Whiting wrote:

JGalban via AviationKB.com wrote:
RST Engineering wrote:
No chocks, only tiedowns could have kept that aircraft from moving.
Chocks aren't perfect. At my home field we often get violent downbursts
from thunderstorms in the summer. Peak gusts of 60-70 kts aren't unusual. I
use both chocks and tiedowns, and I've found that after a particularly bad
storm, the chocks were often blown away from wheels and the plane was sitting
slightly sideways with the tiedowns pulled tight.
Yes, chocks are temporary restraints and no better on ice than are the
tires and brakes. Tie downs are the only way to go for permanent
restraint (other than a hangar!).
Matt
Do small planes have parking brakes? I don't remember having ever
seen one that I could set the brakes.

Wil

Thank you Bertie, Barry, John Matt and Andy for your replies. I've
only flown in C150/2s and yes, my CFI hasn't pointed them out to me
yet.

Wil

He probably isn't aware of the parking brake either! :-)

Matt