Oh, he's good...

Dudley Henriques wrote in
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William Hung wrote:
On Feb 10, 11:11 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
William Hung wrote in
news:b91186d4-fa32-498d-ac70-
:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FCWFMJaBLl0&feature=related
While "researching" stol aircrafts, I came across this.
Wil
This is actualy pretty easy to do in a lot of taildraggers,
especially a cub. Just a bit of brake against power with some
forward stick. You can taxi around all day like this.

Bertie

Keeping the tail off the ground? I suppose it is even easier in a
tricycle geared ones. lol

Inches from a prop-strike, seconds from a prop-strike. I wonder how
many engines he had to have torn down before he got that good.

Wil


Bertie's right. It's not hard at all. Used to do it myself in a comedy
act we threw together based on my good friend Dick Schramms flying
professor routine. We used a J3 Cub. The only thing you really had to
worry about was getting oil on your shoes. I always wore tennis shoes
when doing this act. The J3's brakes were heel brakes and were located
next to the rudder T's slightly inside. If your foot slipped off the
brakes at the wrong time...well..let's just say that writing a check
to Sensinich would have spoiled the day for us :-))


You knew Dick Schramm? Cool!

Most of the time I did this I was flying barefoot anyway....

Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

William Hung wrote:
On Feb 10, 11:11 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
William Hung wrote in
news:b91186d4-fa32-498d-ac70-
:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FCWFMJaBLl0&feature=related
While "researching" stol aircrafts, I came across this.
Wil
This is actualy pretty easy to do in a lot of taildraggers,
especially a cub. Just a bit of brake against power with some
forward stick. You can taxi around all day like this.

Bertie
Keeping the tail off the ground? I suppose it is even easier in a
tricycle geared ones. lol

Inches from a prop-strike, seconds from a prop-strike. I wonder how
many engines he had to have torn down before he got that good.

Wil

Bertie's right. It's not hard at all. Used to do it myself in a comedy
act we threw together based on my good friend Dick Schramms flying
professor routine. We used a J3 Cub. The only thing you really had to
worry about was getting oil on your shoes. I always wore tennis shoes
when doing this act. The J3's brakes were heel brakes and were located
next to the rudder T's slightly inside. If your foot slipped off the
brakes at the wrong time...well..let's just say that writing a check
to Sensinich would have spoiled the day for us :-))


You knew Dick Schramm? Cool!

Most of the time I did this I was flying barefoot anyway....

Bertie

Knew both Sr. and Jr. Both were great guys. Dick Jr. was on the mike
narrating for Dick when he was killed.
He was probably one of the finest sticks ever with a light plane.
It was a freak accident, and I used it in my "Importance of Preflight
Inspections" safety talks for many years.

--
Dudley Henriques

Dudley Henriques wrote in news:jPSdnQVqtcu-
:


You knew Dick Schramm? Cool!

Most of the time I did this I was flying barefoot anyway....

Bertie

Knew both Sr. and Jr. Both were great guys. Dick Jr. was on the mike
narrating for Dick when he was killed.
He was probably one of the finest sticks ever with a light plane.
It was a freak accident, and I used it in my "Importance of Preflight
Inspections" safety talks for many years.

I don't know how it happened, in fact. My father saw it and came home
talking a buch of BS about how it was a result of that fake stick thing he
used to do, and in fact I heard that story from the usual suspects for
years afterwards, but I alwyas thought it sounded like BS.

Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in news:jPSdnQVqtcu-
:
You knew Dick Schramm? Cool!

Most of the time I did this I was flying barefoot anyway....

Bertie

Knew both Sr. and Jr. Both were great guys. Dick Jr. was on the mike
narrating for Dick when he was killed.
He was probably one of the finest sticks ever with a light plane.
It was a freak accident, and I used it in my "Importance of Preflight
Inspections" safety talks for many years.

I don't know how it happened, in fact. My father saw it and came home
talking a buch of BS about how it was a result of that fake stick thing he
used to do, and in fact I heard that story from the usual suspects for
years afterwards, but I alwyas thought it sounded like BS.

Bertie

The way we got it was that Dick used to "borrow" a J3 from Red Bank when
he was doing the clown act at Reading. I believe it was their airplane
that day that he was using.
Apparently they had used it the day before for a photo shoot and had
taken the rear stick out of the airplane to accommodate that mission.
When the stick was put back into the airplane after the photo shoot,
whoever put it back apparently forgot to replace the lower cotter pin
that safties it in the bracket.
Dick was doing one of his low altitude loops and had just gone through
the upper energy gate and was starting down the back side when the stick
came out of the bracket. He had 0 control at that point. I swear I saw
him trying to put it back in the bracket (of course we had no way of
knowing this was what he was doing at the time).
He went straight in. Never had a chance. Dick Jr. was on the mike and I
don't know how in hell he got through it but he kept his cool and tried
to quiet everyone down. We both knew it was bad.
Anyway, that's what happened.

Dick is remembered fondly in the aerobatic and demonstration community.
There is an award in his name and he is probably the only person ever to
be made an honorary Naval Aviator without going through Naval Flight
training. A wonderful guy, and a great pilot. Never had a bad word for
anyone about anyone.
The cotter pin should have been checked secured before the display but
for some unknown reason it was missed.

--
Dudley Henriques

Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in news:jPSdnQVqtcu-
:
You knew Dick Schramm? Cool!

Most of the time I did this I was flying barefoot anyway....

Bertie

Knew both Sr. and Jr. Both were great guys. Dick Jr. was on the mike
narrating for Dick when he was killed.
He was probably one of the finest sticks ever with a light plane.
It was a freak accident, and I used it in my "Importance of
Preflight Inspections" safety talks for many years.

I don't know how it happened, in fact. My father saw it and came home
talking a buch of BS about how it was a result of that fake stick
thing he used to do, and in fact I heard that story from the usual
suspects for years afterwards, but I alwyas thought it sounded like
BS.

Bertie

The way we got it was that Dick used to "borrow" a J3 from Red Bank
when he was doing the clown act at Reading. I believe it was their
airplane that day that he was using.
Apparently they had used it the day before for a photo shoot and had
taken the rear stick out of the airplane to accommodate that mission.
When the stick was put back into the airplane after the photo shoot,
whoever put it back apparently forgot to replace the lower cotter pin
that safties it in the bracket.
Dick was doing one of his low altitude loops and had just gone through
the upper energy gate and was starting down the back side when the
stick came out of the bracket. He had 0 control at that point. I swear
I saw him trying to put it back in the bracket (of course we had no
way of knowing this was what he was doing at the time).
He went straight in. Never had a chance. Dick Jr. was on the mike and
I don't know how in hell he got through it but he kept his cool and
tried to quiet everyone down. We both knew it was bad.
Anyway, that's what happened.

Oh. OK. That's what I heard, in fact.

Dick is remembered fondly in the aerobatic and demonstration
community. There is an award in his name and he is probably the only
person ever to be made an honorary Naval Aviator without going through
Naval Flight training. A wonderful guy, and a great pilot. Never had a
bad word for anyone about anyone.
The cotter pin should have been checked secured before the display but
for some unknown reason it was missed.

Jesus.
I don't think the rear stick on a J-3 comes out. Maybe they do but I'm
guessing the airplane was modded. Some of the tugs I flew had no rear
stick and no rear rudder pedals, but they were heavily modified.


Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in news:jPSdnQVqtcu-
:
You knew Dick Schramm? Cool!

Most of the time I did this I was flying barefoot anyway....

Bertie

Knew both Sr. and Jr. Both were great guys. Dick Jr. was on the mike
narrating for Dick when he was killed.
He was probably one of the finest sticks ever with a light plane.
It was a freak accident, and I used it in my "Importance of
Preflight Inspections" safety talks for many years.

I don't know how it happened, in fact. My father saw it and came home
talking a buch of BS about how it was a result of that fake stick
thing he used to do, and in fact I heard that story from the usual
suspects for years afterwards, but I alwyas thought it sounded like
BS.

Bertie

The way we got it was that Dick used to "borrow" a J3 from Red Bank
when he was doing the clown act at Reading. I believe it was their
airplane that day that he was using.
Apparently they had used it the day before for a photo shoot and had
taken the rear stick out of the airplane to accommodate that mission.
When the stick was put back into the airplane after the photo shoot,
whoever put it back apparently forgot to replace the lower cotter pin
that safties it in the bracket.
Dick was doing one of his low altitude loops and had just gone through
the upper energy gate and was starting down the back side when the
stick came out of the bracket. He had 0 control at that point. I swear
I saw him trying to put it back in the bracket (of course we had no
way of knowing this was what he was doing at the time).
He went straight in. Never had a chance. Dick Jr. was on the mike and
I don't know how in hell he got through it but he kept his cool and
tried to quiet everyone down. We both knew it was bad.
Anyway, that's what happened.

Oh. OK. That's what I heard, in fact.
Dick is remembered fondly in the aerobatic and demonstration
community. There is an award in his name and he is probably the only
person ever to be made an honorary Naval Aviator without going through
Naval Flight training. A wonderful guy, and a great pilot. Never had a
bad word for anyone about anyone.
The cotter pin should have been checked secured before the display but
for some unknown reason it was missed.

Jesus.
I don't think the rear stick on a J-3 comes out. Maybe they do but I'm
guessing the airplane was modded. Some of the tugs I flew had no rear
stick and no rear rudder pedals, but they were heavily modified.


Bertie

I've never actually seen the lower attach bracket on that stick. This
plane might very well have been modified because it was our
understanding that they used it for aerial photography in normal
operation. I would imagine that would be a 337 if so.

--
Dudley Henriques

On Feb 10, 8:43*pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in news:jPSdnQVqtcu-
:
You knew Dick Schramm? Cool!

Most of the time I did this I was flying barefoot anyway....

Bertie

Knew both Sr. and Jr. Both were great guys. Dick Jr. was on the mike
narrating for Dick when he was killed.
He was probably one of the finest sticks ever with a light plane.
It was a freak accident, and I used it in my "Importance of Preflight
Inspections" safety talks for many years.

I don't know how it happened, in fact. My father saw it and came home
talking a buch of BS about how it was a result of that fake stick thing he
used to do, and in fact I heard that story from the usual suspects for
years afterwards, but I alwyas thought it sounded like BS.

Bertie

The way we got it was that Dick used to "borrow" a J3 from Red Bank when
he was doing the clown act at Reading. I believe it was their airplane
that day that he was using.
Apparently they had used it the day before for a photo shoot and had
taken the rear stick out of the airplane to accommodate that mission.
When the stick was put back into the airplane after the photo shoot,
whoever put it back apparently forgot to replace the lower cotter pin
that safties it in the bracket.
Dick was doing one of his low altitude loops and had just gone through
the upper energy gate and was starting down the back side when the stick
came out of the bracket. He had 0 control at that point. I swear I saw
him trying to put it back in the bracket (of course we had no way of
knowing this was what he was doing at the time).
He went straight in. Never had a chance. Dick Jr. was on the mike and I
don't know how in hell he got through it but he kept his cool and tried
to quiet everyone down. We both knew it was bad.
Anyway, that's what happened.

Dick is remembered fondly in the aerobatic and demonstration community.
There is an award in his name and he is probably the only person ever to
be made an honorary Naval Aviator without going through Naval Flight
training. A wonderful guy, and a great pilot. Never had a bad word for
anyone about anyone.
The cotter pin should have been checked secured before the display but
for some unknown reason it was missed.

--
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I remember reading that the Cub solo in the rear and the Husky solos
in the front, but this is the first time I've heard that the Cub had
removable control.

Wil

On Feb 10, 5:02*pm, wrote:
On Feb 10, 9:23 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:





William Hung wrote in news:d5ad9f37-e01f-4e0b-9aad-
:

On Feb 10, 11:11 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
William Hung wrote in news:b91186d4-fa32-498d-
ac70-
:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FCWFMJaBLl0&feature=related

While "researching" stol aircrafts, I came across this.

Wil

This is actualy pretty easy to do in a lot of taildraggers,
especially a
cub. Just a bit of brake against power with some forward stick. You
can
taxi around all day like this.

Bertie

Keeping the tail off the ground? I suppose it is even easier in a
tricycle geared ones. lol

True!

in some of those I've taxied with the nosewheel off the ground, though!

Inches from a prop-strike, seconds from a prop-strike. *I wonder how
many engines he had to have torn down before he got that good.

Like I said, it's easy. *Anyone could do it in a cub with only a little
practice. If it starts to go too far you release the brakes and it sits
down. It's as simple as that. It's lots lots lots easier than it looks.
One problem is that you have a good bit of power on, especially at very
low speeds and your prop is down near the ground where it can pick up
grit.

Bertie

* * * * *I learned to stop the 185 really short doing just this. And
taxied the old Auster like that. Not as hard as it looks, but you sure
gotta be careful. My Jodel, on the other hand, is really finely
balanced, rather light in the tail, and I've never had the nerve to do
it. Maybe this spring:-)
* * * * *The taildragger's CG is usually 15° behind the main axles.
Picking up the tail of a taildragger, you can hoist it over your head
so that it's pointing down at 15° or so, and it'll balance there. Prop
horizontal so it doesn't get stabbed into the pavement. With the
brakes on and engine run up, it's easy enough to keep the tail from
rising to that level.

* * * * Dan- Hide quoted text -

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I'll take y'alls' word for it. Damned if I'll risk a prop strike at
my level of experience to find out how easy it is first hand. lol It
isn't only the price of a new prop that concerns me, it is that and
the rpice of the engine tear down.

Wil

William Hung wrote:
On Feb 10, 5:02 pm, wrote:
On Feb 10, 9:23 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:





William Hung wrote in news:d5ad9f37-e01f-4e0b-9aad-
:
On Feb 10, 11:11 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
William Hung wrote in news:b91186d4-fa32-498d-
ac70-
:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FCWFMJaBLl0&feature=related
While "researching" stol aircrafts, I came across this.
Wil
This is actualy pretty easy to do in a lot of taildraggers,
especially a
cub. Just a bit of brake against power with some forward stick. You
can
taxi around all day like this.
Bertie
Keeping the tail off the ground? I suppose it is even easier in a
tricycle geared ones. lol
True!
in some of those I've taxied with the nosewheel off the ground, though!
Inches from a prop-strike, seconds from a prop-strike. I wonder how
many engines he had to have torn down before he got that good.
Like I said, it's easy. Anyone could do it in a cub with only a little
practice. If it starts to go too far you release the brakes and it sits
down. It's as simple as that. It's lots lots lots easier than it looks.
One problem is that you have a good bit of power on, especially at very
low speeds and your prop is down near the ground where it can pick up
grit.
Bertie
I learned to stop the 185 really short doing just this. And
taxied the old Auster like that. Not as hard as it looks, but you sure
gotta be careful. My Jodel, on the other hand, is really finely
balanced, rather light in the tail, and I've never had the nerve to do
it. Maybe this spring:-)
The taildragger's CG is usually 15° behind the main axles.
Picking up the tail of a taildragger, you can hoist it over your head
so that it's pointing down at 15° or so, and it'll balance there. Prop
horizontal so it doesn't get stabbed into the pavement. With the
brakes on and engine run up, it's easy enough to keep the tail from
rising to that level.

Dan- Hide quoted text -

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I'll take y'alls' word for it. Damned if I'll risk a prop strike at
my level of experience to find out how easy it is first hand. lol It
isn't only the price of a new prop that concerns me, it is that and
the rpice of the engine tear down.

Wil

Well....that's plan B......and could very well be necessary. A prop
strike can do serious things inside an engine.
You just discovered the first rule of display flying. It's not a
business where you make a mistake, step back ten yards and punt. The
thing is....you don't get the prop strike to begin with. If you do, you
shouldn't be there.


--
Dudley Henriques

On Feb 10, 9:10*pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
William Hung wrote:
On Feb 10, 5:02 pm, wrote:
On Feb 10, 9:23 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

William Hung wrote in news:d5ad9f37-e01f-4e0b-9aad-
:
On Feb 10, 11:11 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
William Hung wrote in news:b91186d4-fa32-498d-
ac70-
:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FCWFMJaBLl0&feature=related
While "researching" stol aircrafts, I came across this.
Wil
This is actualy pretty easy to do in a lot of taildraggers,
especially a
cub. Just a bit of brake against power with some forward stick. You
can
taxi around all day like this.
Bertie
Keeping the tail off the ground? I suppose it is even easier in a
tricycle geared ones. lol
True!
in some of those I've taxied with the nosewheel off the ground, though!
Inches from a prop-strike, seconds from a prop-strike. *I wonder how
many engines he had to have torn down before he got that good.
Like I said, it's easy. *Anyone could do it in a cub with only a little
practice. If it starts to go too far you release the brakes and it sits
down. It's as simple as that. It's lots lots lots easier than it looks..
One problem is that you have a good bit of power on, especially at very
low speeds and your prop is down near the ground where it can pick up
grit.
Bertie
* * * * *I learned to stop the 185 really short doing just this. And
taxied the old Auster like that. Not as hard as it looks, but you sure
gotta be careful. My Jodel, on the other hand, is really finely
balanced, rather light in the tail, and I've never had the nerve to do
it. Maybe this spring:-)
* * * * *The taildragger's CG is usually 15° behind the main axles.
Picking up the tail of a taildragger, you can hoist it over your head
so that it's pointing down at 15° or so, and it'll balance there. Prop
horizontal so it doesn't get stabbed into the pavement. With the
brakes on and engine run up, it's easy enough to keep the tail from
rising to that level.

* * * * Dan- Hide quoted text -

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I'll take y'alls' word for it. *Damned if I'll risk a prop strike at
my level of experience to find out how easy it is first hand. lol *It
isn't only the *price of a new prop that concerns me, it is that and
the rpice of the engine tear down.

Wil

Well....that's plan B......and could very well be necessary. A prop
strike can do serious things inside an engine.
You just discovered the first rule of display flying. It's not a
business where you make a mistake, step back ten yards and punt. The
thing is....you don't get the prop strike to begin with. If you do, you
shouldn't be there.

--
Dudley Henriques- Hide quoted text -

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One day in the future Dudley.


Here's a good video of an L4 doing a high tail taxi after a side slip
landing all the way down to a touch down. I really ant a STOL NOW.

Wil