1952 newsreel- latest futuristic and experimental aircraft

On Feb 22, 2:25*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
William Hung wrote :





On Feb 22, 1:58*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
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On Feb 22, 12:48*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
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On Feb 22, 12:40*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
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On Feb 23, 4:55*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
William Hung wrote in
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZMJOS2VWaPU

I poste this video in RAH, thn thought some in RAP might
find it iteresing. *That second plane looks a lot like the
bumblebee, maybe

even smaller. *Would any of you fly it?

That's Ray Stits' Skybaby. It's in the EAA museum AFAIK. I
think it still holds the smallest airplane ( wingspan)
record. there were a few homebuilders that got involved in a
****ing contest for the smallest aroun
d
that time.
He said it was a handful to fly. You can see that on the
takeoff. One of the biggest problems it had was the ASI
didn;'t work worth a damn because it wasn't possible to get
the pitot far enough away from the prop wash..

Hey Bertie why didn't you build one of these:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TDmnjwbJrVM

Saw the first one at OSH many years ago. Pretty cool machine.
There's at least one that flew with two model airplane jet
engines! There's another youtube clip somewhere of one doing
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Here are some photos of the Cri Cri jet...

http://www.amtjets.com/gallery_real_plain.html

How cool is that, eh? IIRC the takeoff roll is very long, but once
it's up and going it's fine.

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Bet it really turns heads on the ramp when you fire up those
engines!

How about four of 'em?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SHYXrqoS08o&feature=related

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Saw that, the guy's got balls.

I like the Cri Cri, once I get enough experience, I just might get me
one O'Dem.

Yeah, they are cool! There doesn't seem to be any plans available
anymore, though someone is selling copies on CD in Ebay. I don't know if
there is some reason he decided no to sell them anymore. Someone in RAH
would know, I'm sure.

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Not sure of the details, but the way I heard it was that either Zenith
or Zenair had the US or Canandian rights to the plans and were selling
them and kits in the Americas. Well, long story short, something was
changed in the plans, the glue used for the wing skin I think, proved
dealy and the US or Canadian lawsuit pu and end to the Cri Cri for the
Americas deal. They areabundant, relatively, in France however.

My momory and my info may not be correct.

Wil

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On Feb 22, 2:25*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
William Hung wrote
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On Feb 22, 1:58*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Phil J wrote
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On Feb 22, 12:48*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Phil J wrote
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On Feb 22, 12:40*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
WingFlaps wrote
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On Feb 23, 4:55*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
William Hung wrote in
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:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZMJOS2VWaPU

I poste this video in RAH, thn thought some in RAP
might find it iteresing. *That second plane looks a lot
like the

bumblebee, maybe

even smaller. *Would any of you fly it?

That's Ray Stits' Skybaby. It's in the EAA museum AFAIK.
I think it still holds the smallest airplane ( wingspan)
record. there were a few homebuilders that got involved
in a ****ing contest for the smallest aroun
d
that time.
He said it was a handful to fly. You can see that on the
takeoff. One of the biggest problems it had was the ASI
didn;'t work worth a damn because it wasn't possible to
get the pitot far enough away from the prop wash..

Hey Bertie why didn't you build one of these:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TDmnjwbJrVM

Saw the first one at OSH many years ago. Pretty cool
machine. There's at least one that flew with two model
airplane jet engines! There's another youtube clip somewhere
of one doing some low level aerobatics.- Hide quote
d text -

- Show quoted text -

Here are some photos of the Cri Cri jet...

http://www.amtjets.com/gallery_real_plain.html

How cool is that, eh? IIRC the takeoff roll is very long, but
once it's up and going it's fine.

Bertie- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Bet it really turns heads on the ramp when you fire up those
engines!

How about four of 'em?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SHYXrqoS08o&feature=related

Bertie- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Saw that, the guy's got balls.

I like the Cri Cri, once I get enough experience, I just might get
me one O'Dem.

Yeah, they are cool! There doesn't seem to be any plans available
anymore, though someone is selling copies on CD in Ebay. I don't know
if there is some reason he decided no to sell them anymore. Someone
in RAH would know, I'm sure.

Bertie- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Not sure of the details, but the way I heard it was that either Zenith
or Zenair had the US or Canandian rights to the plans and were selling
them and kits in the Americas. Well, long story short, something was
changed in the plans, the glue used for the wing skin I think, proved
dealy and the US or Canadian lawsuit pu and end to the Cri Cri for the
Americas deal. They areabundant, relatively, in France however.

My momory and my info may not be correct.


Sounds reasonable. I hadn't heard. Adhesive shouldn't be a problem if
the right stuff is used. God knows there are plenty of metal airplanes
glued together for a very long time!


Bertie

William Hung wrote:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZMJOS2VWaPU

I poste this video in RAH, thn thought some in RAP might find it
iteresing. That second plane looks a lot like the bumblebee, maybe
even smaller. Would any of you fly it?

Wil

I do love those old 1950's era newsreels, especially about
aviation. They seem so full of optimism and enthusiasm for
general aviation... there seemed to be so much promise.
Sort of bittersweet to see not only how far we've come but
what it cost. Today its Big Green Government... they've
taken over every free endeavor including general aviation.

"If you can't tax it then regulate it, if you can't regulate it
then file a lawsuit against it."

kontiki wrote in news:kZFvj.4711$Sa1.756
@news02.roc.ny:

William Hung wrote:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZMJOS2VWaPU

I poste this video in RAH, thn thought some in RAP might find it
iteresing. That second plane looks a lot like the bumblebee, maybe
even smaller. Would any of you fly it?

Wil

I do love those old 1950's era newsreels, especially about
aviation. They seem so full of optimism and enthusiasm for
general aviation... there seemed to be so much promise.
Sort of bittersweet to see not only how far we've come but
what it cost. Today its Big Green Government... they've
taken over every free endeavor including general aviation.

"If you can't tax it then regulate it, if you can't regulate it
then file a lawsuit against it."


Nah, there's more going on in GA than there has been for years. LSA's, high
performance machines like the RVs, and homebuilts in space!

Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
kontiki wrote in news:kZFvj.4711$Sa1.756
@news02.roc.ny:

William Hung wrote:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZMJOS2VWaPU

I poste this video in RAH, thn thought some in RAP might find it
iteresing. That second plane looks a lot like the bumblebee, maybe
even smaller. Would any of you fly it?

Wil
I do love those old 1950's era newsreels, especially about
aviation. They seem so full of optimism and enthusiasm for
general aviation... there seemed to be so much promise.
Sort of bittersweet to see not only how far we've come but
what it cost. Today its Big Green Government... they've
taken over every free endeavor including general aviation.

"If you can't tax it then regulate it, if you can't regulate it
then file a lawsuit against it."


Nah, there's more going on in GA than there has been for years. LSA's, high
performance machines like the RVs, and homebuilts in space!

Bertie

maybe, but its not really promoted in the media. And Lord help
you if somebody gets hurt, theres an army of lawyers waiting
to cash in.

kontiki wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
kontiki wrote in news:kZFvj.4711$Sa1.756
@news02.roc.ny:

William Hung wrote:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZMJOS2VWaPU

I poste this video in RAH, thn thought some in RAP might find it
iteresing. That second plane looks a lot like the bumblebee, maybe
even smaller. Would any of you fly it?

Wil
I do love those old 1950's era newsreels, especially about
aviation. They seem so full of optimism and enthusiasm for
general aviation... there seemed to be so much promise.
Sort of bittersweet to see not only how far we've come but
what it cost. Today its Big Green Government... they've
taken over every free endeavor including general aviation.

"If you can't tax it then regulate it, if you can't regulate it
then file a lawsuit against it."


Nah, there's more going on in GA than there has been for years.
LSA's, high performance machines like the RVs, and homebuilts in
space!

Bertie

maybe, but its not really promoted in the media.

And thank god for that!

And Lord help
you if somebody gets hurt, theres an army of lawyers waiting
to cash in.

True.. I know exaclty what you mean about the enthusiasm and the feeling
that there was in those days, though. In the thirties pilots ( famous
ones) were like rock stars. Every minute of every record setting flight
was followed by the world, the air races were packed and every schoolboy
knew the names and stats of every racer, pilot and airplane. In the
fifties all these new amazing contraptions were being built. Imagine,
less than twenty years between the Boeing 247 and the 707. Biplane
fighter to F102 as well. Vertical takeoff weirness of all description.
Cool.



Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
kontiki wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
kontiki wrote in news:kZFvj.4711$Sa1.756
@news02.roc.ny:

William Hung wrote:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZMJOS2VWaPU

I poste this video in RAH, thn thought some in RAP might find it
iteresing. That second plane looks a lot like the bumblebee, maybe
even smaller. Would any of you fly it?

Wil
I do love those old 1950's era newsreels, especially about
aviation. They seem so full of optimism and enthusiasm for
general aviation... there seemed to be so much promise.
Sort of bittersweet to see not only how far we've come but
what it cost. Today its Big Green Government... they've
taken over every free endeavor including general aviation.

"If you can't tax it then regulate it, if you can't regulate it
then file a lawsuit against it."

Nah, there's more going on in GA than there has been for years.
LSA's, high performance machines like the RVs, and homebuilts in
space!

Bertie
maybe, but its not really promoted in the media.

And thank god for that!

And Lord help
you if somebody gets hurt, theres an army of lawyers waiting
to cash in.

True.. I know exaclty what you mean about the enthusiasm and the feeling
that there was in those days, though. In the thirties pilots ( famous
ones) were like rock stars. Every minute of every record setting flight
was followed by the world, the air races were packed and every schoolboy
knew the names and stats of every racer, pilot and airplane. In the
fifties all these new amazing contraptions were being built. Imagine,
less than twenty years between the Boeing 247 and the 707. Biplane
fighter to F102 as well. Vertical takeoff weirness of all description.
Cool.

Yup. Those were the good ol' days. When I was a kid in the sixties
I read every book in the library about space flight, aircraft and
aviation technology (and history). Things are different today and I
think our tendency toward risk aversion, litigation and regulation
has taken alot of fun and excitement out of it for the younger
generations. Too bad... maybe one day the pendulum will swing back in
the other direction.

kontiki wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
kontiki wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
kontiki wrote in news:kZFvj.4711$Sa1.756
@news02.roc.ny:

William Hung wrote:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZMJOS2VWaPU

I poste this video in RAH, thn thought some in RAP might find it
iteresing. That second plane looks a lot like the bumblebee,
maybe even smaller. Would any of you fly it?

Wil
I do love those old 1950's era newsreels, especially about
aviation. They seem so full of optimism and enthusiasm for
general aviation... there seemed to be so much promise.
Sort of bittersweet to see not only how far we've come but
what it cost. Today its Big Green Government... they've
taken over every free endeavor including general aviation.

"If you can't tax it then regulate it, if you can't regulate it
then file a lawsuit against it."

Nah, there's more going on in GA than there has been for years.
LSA's, high performance machines like the RVs, and homebuilts in
space!

Bertie
maybe, but its not really promoted in the media.

And thank god for that!

And Lord help
you if somebody gets hurt, theres an army of lawyers waiting
to cash in.

True.. I know exaclty what you mean about the enthusiasm and the
feeling that there was in those days, though. In the thirties pilots
( famous ones) were like rock stars. Every minute of every record
setting flight was followed by the world, the air races were packed
and every schoolboy knew the names and stats of every racer, pilot
and airplane. In the fifties all these new amazing contraptions were
being built. Imagine, less than twenty years between the Boeing 247
and the 707. Biplane fighter to F102 as well. Vertical takeoff
weirness of all description. Cool.

Yup. Those were the good ol' days. When I was a kid in the sixties
I read every book in the library about space flight, aircraft and
aviation technology (and history). Things are different today and I
think our tendency toward risk aversion, litigation and regulation
has taken alot of fun and excitement out of it for the younger
generations. Too bad... maybe one day the pendulum will swing back in
the other direction.


Well, I know at least one who is up and coming... I hope he has
something decent to fly!


Bertie

William Hung wrote:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZMJOS2VWaPU

I poste this video in RAH, thn thought some in RAP might find it
iteresing. That second plane looks a lot like the bumblebee, maybe
even smaller. Would any of you fly it?

Wil

WTF...how did they handle the anti-torque on that GIANT hecilopter. I didn't
see a tail rotor.

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William Hung wrote:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZMJOS2VWaPU

I poste this video in RAH, thn thought some in RAP might find it
iteresing. That second plane looks a lot like the bumblebee, maybe
even smaller. Would any of you fly it?

Wil

WTF...how did they handle the anti-torque on that GIANT hecilopter. I
didn't see a tail rotor.


Jet tip.

Bertie