Global Warming The debbil made me do it

Dan wrote in
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On Mar 9, 2:21 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dan wrote
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On Mar 9, 1:48 pm, "Dan Luke" wrote:
"Dan" wrote:
So, only 1,400 signatories even *claimed* to have anything to
do with climate
science. And out of that 1,400, two hundred were climate
researchers.

That's a long way from 19,000 scientists who doubt that AGW is
real, isn't it?

You won't listen to "climate researchers" unless they abide by
your hysteria.

You haven't got any climate researchers. If you did, you could
post links to their peer-reviewed research.

You got suckered by a bogus petition. Because you wanted to

I gotta go shovel the snow caused by all this global warming.

You don't even know what it means.

Don't strain your back.

You know, your kind has been around a while. In the 80's it was the
anti-nuke crowd. Same look, same methods, same chicken little
tactics, same "concerned scientists," same power grab, same
celebrity hand- wringing ("I Hope the Russians Love their children
too.."), same name- calling, same phony-baloney cooked up numbers.

So, you're saying a nuclear conflict would have been no big deal?

And "your kind?"

Good grief.

Bertie

We all knew the conflict would be catastrophic.

However, the Anti-nuke crowd wanted the US to disarm unilaterally.
They also insisted that it was US technical advances and weapon
fielding that was destabilizing.

It was.

To the Soviet Empire.

And yeah, his "kind." The insulting, name calling, rude, and obnoxious
"kind."

I know what you mean.

Anyone who takes a certain point of view must be a name-calling rude and
obnoxious "kind".





Bertie

Dan wrote in news:f50cda79-23cf-46c7-b0f9-
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On Mar 9, 2:16 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

I'll just move to Iowa where's it gonna be paradise pretty soon!

Why, is Jay moving?

Seriously, you seem to fail to undersnd what this is all about. it's
not
about a slightly balmier climate. It's about a good deal more energy
being involved in the wx. Whatever else may happen, that is certain.

Bertie

You're right that I am failing.

I am failing to agree with those who insist that the oceans will rise
20 feet, the 0.6 Degree rise we see is solely due to man made causes,
and that the earth is unable to regulate the temperature through
natural processes.

I'm also failing to agree that when the Climate change apostles
preach, "All the world's scientists agree," but when anyone dares
offer contrary opinion, they are pilloried as "not climate
scientists."

You fly in weather -- when the hell did a "scientist" ever get it
right 50% of the time?


These days they're getting it right about 90% of the time.

My flight logs come with forecast winds for every waypoint. they are
generaly within 10degrees and 5 knots of forecast hours form when the
forecast was made.
Vis, winds, precip, are all forecast to an accuracy that would have been
thought impossible just a few years ago.


In fact, that's another laughable trait of this latest "crisis" -- it
is the first time in science history that "all scientist agree."


Jesus wept.


Bertie

In article ,
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

I kinda dried up my corner for a while, but there's kooks-a-plenty all
the sudden.

election year

arf meow arf - everything thing i know i learned
from the collective unconscience of odd bodkins
nobody could do that much decoupage
without calling on the powers of darkness

On Mar 9, 2:38 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

I know what you mean.

Anyone who takes a certain point of view must be a name-calling rude and
obnoxious "kind".

Bertie

Point taken.

It was a poor choice of words.

Dan

On Mar 9, 2:41 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

You fly in weather -- when the hell did a "scientist" ever get it
right 50% of the time?

These days they're getting it right about 90% of the time.

My flight logs come with forecast winds for every waypoint. they are
generaly within 10degrees and 5 knots of forecast hours form when the
forecast was made.
Vis, winds, precip, are all forecast to an accuracy that would have been
thought impossible just a few years ago.


Bertie

From which source?

I've yet to see winds aloft match the forecast except when very strong
(40 Knots @ 3000) or very light.

That said, I think the effect of the local topography is not factored
in or perhaps ignored (The Alleghenies).

Dan

On Mar 9, 4:17 pm, mariposas rand mair fheal
wrote:
Dan wrote in
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However, the Anti-nuke crowd wanted the US to disarm unilaterally.
They also insisted that it was US technical advances and weapon
fielding that was destabilizing.

so let me get this analogy straight

generation of greenhouse gasses are a weapon against our enemies
(there always enemies - especially in an election year)
and disarming ourselves of this weapon would lead to our anihilation

arf meow arf - everything thing i know i learned
from the collective unconscience of odd bodkins
nobody could do that much decoupage
without calling on the powers of darkness

No.

"Everybody must agree that there is only one course to insure our
survival!" rhetoric is consistently wrong.

That's the point.

Dan

Dan wrote in
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On Mar 9, 2:41 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

You fly in weather -- when the hell did a "scientist" ever get it
right 50% of the time?

These days they're getting it right about 90% of the time.

My flight logs come with forecast winds for every waypoint. they are
generaly within 10degrees and 5 knots of forecast hours form when the
forecast was made.
Vis, winds, precip, are all forecast to an accuracy that would have
been thought impossible just a few years ago.


Bertie

From which source?


Can't you read? Me. I just told you. Moi, Ich, myself with my own eyes.


I've yet to see winds aloft match the forecast except when very strong
(40 Knots @ 3000) or very light.


Well, what can I tel you, must be a denier serivce you're using.

That said, I think the effect of the local topography is not factored
in or perhaps ignored (The Alleghenies).




Mine are for high alt. The wx service wont tell you the wind at the top
of every peak, that's YOUR job to extrapolate.

They could if they were so inclined, though.


Bertie

Dan wrote in news:1f57732b-9b4a-4cf3-ab21-
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On Mar 9, 2:38 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

I know what you mean.

Anyone who takes a certain point of view must be a name-calling rude
and
obnoxious "kind".

Bertie

Point taken.

What point?

It was a poor choice of words.

I thought they were perfect.



Bertie




Bertie

Dan wrote in news:9ced5bde-8241-4ecd-9cb5-
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On Mar 9, 4:17 pm, mariposas rand mair fheal
wrote:
Dan wrote in
news:b6793e6f-a50d-49aa-ade0-caa8a027da37@
47g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
However, the Anti-nuke crowd wanted the US to disarm
unilaterally.
They also insisted that it was US technical advances and weapon
fielding that was destabilizing.

so let me get this analogy straight

generation of greenhouse gasses are a weapon against our enemies
(there always enemies - especially in an election year)
and disarming ourselves of this weapon would lead to our anihilation

arf meow arf - everything thing i know i learned
from the collective unconscience of odd bodkins
nobody could do that much decoupage
without calling on the powers of darkness

No.

"Everybody must agree that there is only one course to insure our
survival!" rhetoric is consistently wrong.

That's the point.


Ah, another point.


You're ahead by three now!


Bertie

On Mar 9, 3:35 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

These days they're getting it right about 90% of the time.

My flight logs come with forecast winds for every waypoint. they are
generaly within 10degrees and 5 knots of forecast hours form when the
forecast was made.
Vis, winds, precip, are all forecast to an accuracy that would have
been thought impossible just a few years ago.

Bertie

From which source?

Can't you read? Me. I just told you. Moi, Ich, myself with my own eyes.

I've yet to see winds aloft match the forecast except when very strong
(40 Knots @ 3000) or very light.

Mine are for high alt. The wx service wont tell you the wind at the top
of every peak, that's YOUR job to extrapolate.

Bertie

I don't fly high alt -- I fly between 5-14k.

I know what my job is -- thanks, and therefore how to extrapolate.



Dan