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  #281  
Old March 18th 08, 11:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message .. .
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Couldn't bear it. I'm not realy into dancing and the single theme hat
droned on throughout was just mindnumbing, i though.


The place was full though!


Bertie


Shoulda bought stock...
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Old March 18th 08, 11:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Blueskies wrote:

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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We're losing a lot of our last flying generation each year.


Yep

Bertie


Have you guys seen the book "America's Hundred-Thousand"? It is about
the USA fighter production in WWII. Very good...
Also, have you seen any of the EAA 'voices' or whatever it is they
call it; the recordings and stories from the guys (and gals) who were
there. Also very good...


Haven't seen that but it sounds like a fine idea.

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Here you go: http://eaa.org/timelessvoices/



What a wonderful idea. I hope EAA is successful with this.

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Old March 18th 08, 11:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Blueskies" wrote in
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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Well, you also gave the world Joni Mitchell, so as a concilatroy
gesture we'll burn the entire panel of american idol at the stake.

Bertie


American idle...


What hope has the human race now?


Bertie
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Old March 18th 08, 11:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Blueskies" wrote in
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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Couldn't bear it. I'm not realy into dancing and the single theme hat
droned on throughout was just mindnumbing, i though.


The place was full though!


Bertie


Shoulda bought stock...


Ugh. Plenty of shows you can lose your shirt on if you really want to!

Bertie
  #286  
Old March 19th 08, 01:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Roger wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:42:46 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Mar 17, 1:16 pm, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:

I'm a victim of the enviroment. Take non-linear
math for example, I try to reduce my flap flutter.
Betcha you could understand non-linear math
by figuring out the source of flutter in control
surfaces, and then why a mass counter balance
is needed even for a 152.

"Flap flutter." Well, it might be news to you that flaps don't
have mass balances. They're not subject to flutter.


What? "You've never seen flap flutter". You missed the infamous
"Cherokee Dance" created by flap flutter when the ol' Johnson bar was
coupled to a pilot with a case of nerves who kept missing the catch?
Wellll...It is more of a low frequency oscillation rather than
flutter.

Dan

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


Johnson bar fun is when you have a sweaty hand one day in one of the
early Cessna 150's and you thumb the release catch after a short field
takeoff and it slips out of your fingers. The resulting BANG when it
hits the floorboard as the flaps come up in a nano second can give the
guy next to you a heart attack!
:-))

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Old March 19th 08, 01:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Mar 18, 9:01 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
Roger wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:42:46 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


On Mar 17, 1:16 pm, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:


I'm a victim of the enviroment. Take non-linear
math for example, I try to reduce my flap flutter.
Betcha you could understand non-linear math
by figuring out the source of flutter in control
surfaces, and then why a mass counter balance
is needed even for a 152.
"Flap flutter." Well, it might be news to you that flaps don't
have mass balances. They're not subject to flutter.


What? "You've never seen flap flutter". You missed the infamous
"Cherokee Dance" created by flap flutter when the ol' Johnson bar was
coupled to a pilot with a case of nerves who kept missing the catch?
Wellll...It is more of a low frequency oscillation rather than
flutter.


Dan

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


Johnson bar fun is when you have a sweaty hand one day in one of the
early Cessna 150's and you thumb the release catch after a short field
takeoff and it slips out of your fingers. The resulting BANG when it
hits the floorboard as the flaps come up in a nano second can give the
guy next to you a heart attack!
:-))

--
Dudley Henriques


LOL!

Just yesterday we were in the 172E (last 172 model with the bar).

"I think this only has 30 degrees... wait.. hang on... UUUMMPPHHH --
there you go! Just don't go around!'

Came down like an elevator...


Dan Mc
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Old March 19th 08, 01:47 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Dan wrote:
On Mar 18, 9:01 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
Roger wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:42:46 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
On Mar 17, 1:16 pm, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:
I'm a victim of the enviroment. Take non-linear
math for example, I try to reduce my flap flutter.
Betcha you could understand non-linear math
by figuring out the source of flutter in control
surfaces, and then why a mass counter balance
is needed even for a 152.
"Flap flutter." Well, it might be news to you that flaps don't
have mass balances. They're not subject to flutter.
What? "You've never seen flap flutter". You missed the infamous
"Cherokee Dance" created by flap flutter when the ol' Johnson bar was
coupled to a pilot with a case of nerves who kept missing the catch?
Wellll...It is more of a low frequency oscillation rather than
flutter.
Dan
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Johnson bar fun is when you have a sweaty hand one day in one of the
early Cessna 150's and you thumb the release catch after a short field
takeoff and it slips out of your fingers. The resulting BANG when it
hits the floorboard as the flaps come up in a nano second can give the
guy next to you a heart attack!
:-))

--
Dudley Henriques


LOL!

Just yesterday we were in the 172E (last 172 model with the bar).

"I think this only has 30 degrees... wait.. hang on... UUUMMPPHHH --
there you go! Just don't go around!'

Came down like an elevator...


Dan Mc

I actually liked the bar really. One thing for sure. You always knew
where the flaps were :-))


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Dudley Henriques
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Old March 19th 08, 02:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Mar 18, 9:47 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:


Just yesterday we were in the 172E (last 172 model with the bar).


"I think this only has 30 degrees... wait.. hang on... UUUMMPPHHH --
there you go! Just don't go around!'


Came down like an elevator...


Dan Mc


I actually liked the bar really. One thing for sure. You always knew
where the flaps were :-))

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Dudley Henriques


I agree completely...

The A36 has a little indicator window hidden behind the big yoke arm.

Most times it's easier to just give it full flaps and be done.


Dan Mc

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Old March 19th 08, 02:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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Roger wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:42:46 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Mar 17, 1:16 pm, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:

I'm a victim of the enviroment. Take non-linear
math for example, I try to reduce my flap flutter.
Betcha you could understand non-linear math
by figuring out the source of flutter in control
surfaces, and then why a mass counter balance
is needed even for a 152.
"Flap flutter." Well, it might be news to you that flaps don't
have mass balances. They're not subject to flutter.


What? "You've never seen flap flutter". You missed the infamous
"Cherokee Dance" created by flap flutter when the ol' Johnson bar was
coupled to a pilot with a case of nerves who kept missing the catch?
Wellll...It is more of a low frequency oscillation rather than
flutter.

Dan

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


Johnson bar fun is when you have a sweaty hand one day in one of the early
Cessna 150's and you thumb the release catch after a short field takeoff
and it slips out of your fingers. The resulting BANG when it hits the
floorboard as the flaps come up in a nano second can give the guy next to
you a heart attack!
:-))

--
Dudley Henriques


I remember a new 1953 Tripacer. We had four folks in it and landed on a
grass strip. After we landed we realized the grass hadn't been mowed for
quite a while. Couldn't get up enough speed to take off. I had a bright
idea. Started the takeoff roll and started pumping the Johnson Bar for the
flaps. The airplane started bouncing and everytime we bounced out of the
grass it accellerated a little bit more. We made it off before we ran out
of runway. I felt like I jacked that darn Tripacer into the air! :-)

Highflyer
Highflight Aviation Services
Pinckneyville Airport PJY


 




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