Me being a passenger - Video

wrote:


Guess being passenger does have it's privilges!!! I really was having
fun being a passenger and looking out the SIDE window!!!

Allen

I kept waiting for the flare that never seemed to come. Seems like
there's no round-out. Did she flare, or did she three point? Maybe
somehow the camera angle makes it deceptive. Anyone else see it that way?

On Apr 8, 6:12*pm, romeomike wrote:

I kept waiting for the flare that never seemed to come. Seems like
there's no round-out. Did she flare, or did she three point? Maybe
somehow the camera angle makes it deceptive. Anyone else see it that way?

You are correct for the first landing. First one was a very flat
landing, she knew it too and we did three point it.

Second landing was much better and mains settled first. On that
landing, talked her through my "landing trick" of just before wheels
touch, to add a touch (like 25 rpm) of power, which gave her more
time to effectively flare. The chirp on the second landing was the
nose wheel settling. Mains came down nice and soft.

Allen

On Apr 8, 5:39*pm, Matt Whiting wrote:

I didn't notice it looking steeper than 30 degrees. *The biggest problem
I saw other than the lousy camera work and the stupid attempts at
special effects, was the consistent landing well left of the centerline.

You had two rookies in the plane :-)

I'm not used to being a cameraman and she has only had her VFR ticket
for one month. She wasn't **that** far off the centerline so we need
to give her some slack. Of course until now, you ddin't know that..

While in my other videos, fades work best based on the music. For
example if you look at my video "I can only Imagine" at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uP17DO1U3c fades are more effective,
then zany transitions. The average time per picture in this video is
3 seconds based on the beat of the song.

In this "I am Woman video", since it was an upbeat song, and fast
paced, figure to spice up the effects with something different. I
timed the effects with either a beat to the music or a specific word
in the song.

Allen

wrote:


Second landing was much better and mains settled first. On that
landing, talked her through my "landing trick" of just before wheels
touch, to add a touch (like 25 rpm) of power, which gave her more
time to effectively flare. The chirp on the second landing was the
nose wheel settling. Mains came down nice and soft.

Allen


On looking again, I agree there appeared to be some flare on the second
landing. I suspect the "chirp" was really from the mains. Encourage her
to flare consistently to avoid a damaging nose strike or porpoising with
possible resultant damage. A three-point is a hair away from one of
these scenarios.

On Apr 8, 9:07*pm, romeomike wrote:
. Encourage her
to flare consistently to avoid a damaging nose strike or porpoising with
possible resultant damage. A three-point is a hair away from one of
these scenarios.

Absolutely agree with the above.

Her approach was significantly higher then my approaches at her
stage. She was very hesitant to bring power back to idle on short
final, which I found quite unusual since she had the runway made.

I am not an instructor by any means, so figure if it works for her,
and she lands safely, it's the end result that counts :-)

She is going on her instrument training, so landings will I am sure
improve with time.

Allen

On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:39:18 GMT, Matt Whiting wrote:

I didn't notice it looking steeper than 30 degrees. The biggest problem
I saw other than the lousy camera work and the stupid attempts at
special effects, was the consistent landing well left of the centerline.

MATT THE ASSHOLE TROLL

*PLONK*

On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 18:43:29 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Apr 8, 5:39*pm, Matt Whiting wrote:

I didn't notice it looking steeper than 30 degrees. *The biggest problem
I saw other than the lousy camera work and the stupid attempts at
special effects, was the consistent landing well left of the centerline.

You had two rookies in the plane :-)

I'm not used to being a cameraman and she has only had her VFR ticket
for one month. She wasn't **that** far off the centerline so we need
to give her some slack. Of course until now, you ddin't know that..

While in my other videos, fades work best based on the music. For
example if you look at my video "I can only Imagine" at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uP17DO1U3c fades are more effective,
then zany transitions. The average time per picture in this video is
3 seconds based on the beat of the song.

In this "I am Woman video", since it was an upbeat song, and fast
paced, figure to spice up the effects with something different. I
timed the effects with either a beat to the music or a specific word
in the song.

Allen

I appreciated it, thank you.

Vinnie Yasay wrote:
On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:39:18 GMT, Matt Whiting wrote:

I didn't notice it looking steeper than 30 degrees. The biggest problem
I saw other than the lousy camera work and the stupid attempts at
special effects, was the consistent landing well left of the centerline.

MATT THE ASSHOLE TROLL

*PLONK*

Now that you have established that you don't know what a troll is, are
you going to establish that you don't know what plonk means?

wrote:
On Apr 8, 5:39 pm, Matt Whiting wrote:

I didn't notice it looking steeper than 30 degrees. The biggest problem
I saw other than the lousy camera work and the stupid attempts at
special effects, was the consistent landing well left of the centerline.

You had two rookies in the plane :-)

:-) At least being a rookie is a temporary condition!


I'm not used to being a cameraman and she has only had her VFR ticket
for one month. She wasn't **that** far off the centerline so we need
to give her some slack. Of course until now, you ddin't know that..

Actually, I wouldn't give her slack as that just leads to sloppy flying
going forward. Always strive for perfection and you will slowly get
better. Accept 3 feet left of center line and you will always be
landing off the center line (she looked at least that far off and
probably more as it appeared that even the right main was left of
centerline at touchdown). Always strive to plant the nose wheel on the
centerline.


While in my other videos, fades work best based on the music. For
example if you look at my video "I can only Imagine" at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uP17DO1U3c fades are more effective,
then zany transitions. The average time per picture in this video is
3 seconds based on the beat of the song.

In this "I am Woman video", since it was an upbeat song, and fast
paced, figure to spice up the effects with something different. I
timed the effects with either a beat to the music or a specific word
in the song.

Well, it is a personal preference thing, but I didn't even watch the
entire clip before I was tired of it and stopped ... and it wasn't that
long of a clip!

Matt

On Apr 9, 6:39*pm, Matt Whiting wrote:

Actually, I wouldn't give her slack as that just leads to sloppy flying
going forward. *Always strive for perfection and you will slowly get
better. *Accept 3 feet left of center line and you will always be
landing off the center line (she looked at least that far off and
probably more as it appeared that even the right main was left of
centerline at touchdown). *Always strive to plant the nose wheel on the
centerline.

Just like you not liking transitions where as others like them, maybe
I am more tolerant of somebody being new at this then you.

At her experience, planting on the centerline would be nice, but with
the workload for a new pilot, I am just happy she put it on the ground
SAFELY.

In time that centerline won't be so elusive. After all, she is
pursuing her instrument ticket, so she is looking to improve herself.

I take it you forget what it was like after you got your ticket? Or
are you that perfect? Sheeez, give a newbie a break. Her ticket is
one month old.

Personally, me being there in the plane, I was quite impressed. Her
first landing, she knew she didn't do well by landing flat, but she
sure did correct it the second landing. If the only thing she did
wrong in was miss the centerline by three lousy feet or so on a 75
foot wide runway, I'd say she did pretty good. Nothing unsafe in my
eyes and nore did I feel unsafe at any given point of the flight.

BTW, I am not an instructor, but after 800+ hours of PIC myself, I can
make judgement on whether I feel safe or not, and that to me is the
utmost important feeling.

Allen