Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross

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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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writes:

Funny that where ever you post there seems to be a
"treehouse
club" that thinks you are a twit.
I consider it more sad than funny. There are a lot of
mean
people
in the world, and for some reason cyberspace encourages
them
to
show their true colors.
It's always someone else's fault, isn't it?




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Bertie
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Erm, better start the counter at 1,281.
Ahh, give it a rest Bertie. Your sockpuppet routine isn't
fooling
anyone, just showing how lame you really are.

Besides, your statistics are waaaay off.


Uh, yeh, sure k00kie boi.


I thought you were running away? Forget something?



Bertie
/rolls eyes

Am I your sock or are you my sock? Just wondering.
I'm not fussy. In Maxie's mind anything is possible, so maybe
we're
like
that Escher drawing of the two hands drawing each other..
And I like how Maxie-poo thinks his post count is more accurate
than
Google's post count. It's... cute.

He's adorable.


Bertie
He's like a little animal that makes a cute little noise when you
kick
it, except the SPCA doesn't give a ****.

/kick
Yip!
LOL
Repeat.

I have to agree. i can't imagine why else he subjects himself to
it.


Bertie
I think I know. Figured him out some time ago. I think you've a
handle
on him as well. He tries hard but he just can't cut it. He's just
not
good enough to pull it off :-))


They just never seem to get the fact that the fish seldom reels in
the
fisherman.


Bertie

Only in JAWS I think!!
:-))


And in Maxie's case, gums, or at best, chicken lips.


Bertie

WingFlaps writes:

Dieting again? But seriously just try it and then you won't spout
_complete_ nonsense...

Why would I try something stupid?

Dudley Henriques writes:

Do you actually believe (not that it matters all that much), and are
trying to sell that I put a bio of myself on Wikipedia to assuage my
ego?

I didn't say anything about you.

Mxsmanic wrote:
Dudley Henriques writes:

Do you actually believe (not that it matters all that much), and are
trying to sell that I put a bio of myself on Wikipedia to assuage my
ego?

I didn't say anything about you.

Don't be cute Anthony. It's beneath you. You took a shot and blew it. No
big deal. :-))

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Dudley Henriques

Mxsmanic wrote in
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WingFlaps writes:

Dieting again? But seriously just try it and then you won't spout
_complete_ nonsense...

Why would I try something stupid?


Dunno, to get to the other side?

Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Dudley Henriques writes:

Do you actually believe (not that it matters all that much), and are
trying to sell that I put a bio of myself on Wikipedia to assuage my
ego?

I didn't say anything about you.


Liar.


Bertie

gregvk wrote:
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Your name sucks. Change it.

No thanks. My bank would go out of business.

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Dudley Henriques

On Apr 24, 12:24 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

Doesn't look like an engine failure or spin to me. The aircraft was
overweight, though.

How the hell would you know what either engine failure or a spin looks
like?

Remember. You can't and don't fly.
I'd guess that this was an aft CofG.with all that that implies to the
pilots here...

Gig 601Xl Builder wrote:

I have no doubt that an adjuster for any insurance company is looking
for an out and that the carrier is going to subro if they can. But they
have to have wording in the policy that gives them the out. Hence ,my
question to you "Was there wording in the policy that gave the insurance
company the right to do that?"


Yes, there was. Any time an insurance company denies a claim they're
always going to reference the policy conditions.

one little nit (?). doesn't the empty weight of an a/c include full
oil, making no need to add it to the equation? I know the "basic empty
weight" of my 172 includes full oil... I don't add the weight of oil (or
unusable fuel)...


george wrote:
On Apr 24, 9:31 am, terry wrote:
On Apr 22, 10:16 am, tman inv@lid wrote: tman wrote:

, and also the day turned out to be +20F hotter than I thought it would. I've experienced that heat not only hurts the planes
performance, but the pilots too. Oh yeah, a slightly gusty xwind too.
Pretty happy I planned on leaving one pax behind.
If you look very closely at the take off performance data of a 172
( which I have) you will find that higher temperature actually
improves performance, for the same air density. Now I know that
contradicts what we get taught in flight school, and while it is
generally true that when temperature is lower the air will be more
dense , the atmosphere is a dyanmic system and pressure and
temperature can vary independantly. So it is possible to have the
same air density , or density altitude at 2 different temperature and
the day with the higher temperature wil give you better performance.
It is related to engine performance and the best explanation I have
got is that at the same density on a higher temperature day, the
pressure will also be higher ( since density = PM/RT where M is
molecular wt, R is gas constant, P and T press and temp), and the
higher pressure provides a greater driving force to suck air into the
engine. If you do the same analysis on the landing distance you see
no such temperature effect because landing distance is not power
related , only lift related.
In the next few days I will get around to providing a link to this
data, but you can easily prove it yourself if you have the Cessna
takeoff distance tables..
Terry
PPL Downunder

You can play with your C172 N weight and balance here
http://home.new.rr.com/trumpetb/alph/wb172N.html