Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross

Mxsmanic wrote:
gatt writes:

What would it say?

I don't know. I've never tried to promote myself.

Try now. You brought it up.

What would it say?



-c

Mxsmanic wrote:
gatt writes:

Ah, so, that's why you keep blathering here? To amuse the "boy's club?"

I post here because I like to discuss aviation. The boys' club is a minority,
despite all the noise it makes.

Who else here "discusses aviation" with you?

Surely somebody will step forward and defend you.


"Buehler... ...Buehler..."

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote in
:

How the hell would you know what either engine failure or a spin looks
like?
By the description given.


So, I've read some descriptions of France, and according to the
descriptions, everybody over there is a chain-smoking, bloated,
undersexed, arrogant socialist cheese-eating alcoholic asshole whose
only respectable military force is their FOREIGN Legion.

I could ask a genuine frenchman or visit France, but, I don't need to
because of the "descriptions given." And since I studied French in high
school, I'm STILL more educated on the subject than Andrew is about
aviation.

"C'est la vie" say the old folks...

-c

On Apr 24, 5:30 pm, Nomen Nescio wrote:
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From: george

On Apr 24, 12:24 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

Doesn't look like an engine failure or spin to me. The aircraft was
overweight, though.

How the hell would you know what either engine failure or a spin looks
like?

Remember. You can't and don't fly.
I'd guess that this was an aft CofG.with all that that implies to the
pilots here...

MX's idea of an aft CG is leaning back in his chair as he yanks his joystick.

Well I downloaded the video that he linked to and watched it.
Once!
If you download it you'll notice high nose, inability to maintain
track and no climb out of ground effect.
Wrong side of the power curve killed them

On Apr 24, 10:49 pm, terry wrote:

Thanks for the link George, Did you write this?

No! I'd like to have though

Its a nice piece of
work , but as another poster mentions, oil should be included in the
MT wt, as should unusable fuel. As you prolly know I wrote my own in
Excel which can be downloaded (along with some other applications) athttp://www.straightandleveldownunder.net/index.html

Mine, I think is more idiot proof ( it had to be , I wrote it
basically for myself) and gives clear error messages if any
parameters are exceeded. It includes oil and unusable fuel in the MT
wt, but you still enter total fuel as that is what you measure when
you dip your tanks.
Terry
PPL Downunder

Thanks Terry.
I found it while looking up Weight and Balance for the same mark of
C172 I flew (ZK-CFD)
But I'm going to link to your one and run the same numbers

gatt wrote:


So, I've read some descriptions of France, and according to the
descriptions, everybody over there is a chain-smoking, bloated,
undersexed, arrogant socialist cheese-eating alcoholic asshole whose
only respectable military force is their FOREIGN Legion.

I could ask a genuine frenchman or visit France, but, I don't need to
because of the "descriptions given." And since I studied French in high
school, I'm STILL more educated on the subject than Andrew is about
aviation.

"C'est la vie" say the old folks...

-c

Anthony you mean.

P.S. Gatt, I really just corrected you on this so I could repost your
statement above.

Mxsmanic wrote:


Actual pilots here have made some glaring errors that have considerably
diminished my opinion of private pilots. They don't seem to be nearly as
qualified as I had formerly presumed them to be. Sometimes they don't even
know the basics. Worse yet, they are more interested in defending their egos
than in being right.

Then why do you continue to read and post here? The data you get isn't
up to your standards and unless you are insane (and I'm not ruling that
out)it must be clear to you that nobody who reads this group thinks
anything you write is worth the disk space it occupies. The only reason
left is that you come here to troll and cause trouble. Which pumps up
your ego because you are a sad little man-boy who has found whenever you
talk to real people in the real world they either ignore you or once you
keep blathering on and they can no longer ignore you they beat the crap
out of you.

Mxsmanic wrote:

gatt writes:


Ah, so, that's why you keep blathering here? To amuse the "boy's club?"


I post here because I like to discuss aviation.

No you don't, liar. You spend precious little time discussing aviation
here, as your last several posts in this thread alone have made
abundantly clear. You post here for the same reason you post in any
discussion forum: you're a pain-in-the-ass ****-stirrer.

The boys' club is a minority,
despite all the noise it makes.

Your whiny dismissal of the substantial number of posters here who find
you a tedious, useless annoyance is utterly irrelevant, ****-stick-boi,
as is your pathetic passive-aggressive style of personal attack.

Mxsmanic wrote:
gatt writes:

Your problem is that you don't fly.

That isn't the problem that you make it out to be. Flying is not magic.

Actual pilots here--nearly all of
them--keep telling you that you have no idea what you're talking about,
and you still can't catch the clue.

Actual pilots here have made some glaring errors that have considerably
diminished my opinion of private pilots.

LOL! Yet, you can't differentiate between the private pilots, commercial
pilots, CFIs and ATP.

They don't seem to be nearly as qualified

You are not authoritative on who is qualified. The difference between
you is that they can and have flown planes.

-c

Mxsmanic wrote:

writes:


Have you ever wondered why you always seem to have this problem?


No.

No surprise there, is there, numbnuts? You're utterly incapable of
introspection of any kind.

I've seen others treated in exactly the same way, as soon as they
disagree with the alpha dog(s). I've seen it right here in this newsgroup,
and, in fact, at any given time there are usually at least one or two bullies
insulting a few targets in the group.

Aw, poor widdle fella. Oh, by the way ... you claim you come here to
discuss aviation. So... just what the *HELL* does this have to do with
aviation, whiny-boi?

Have you ever wondered why few people other than you have this problem?


No, because a lot of people are equally harassed by the kiddies.

"the kiddies?" More personal attacks, whiny-boi?

Anyone who
fails to submit to bullies becomes a target of them.

Awww, poor widdle baby. Is the mean ol' buwwies picking on poor widdle
you?