The Worst Airliner Landing, Ever?

"Mike Isaksen" wrote in
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"Jay Honeck" wrote
Here's a copy you can save:
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga...eos/MD-80.mpeg
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Here's a painful one to watch. Good vid to show students about why
airspeed is important.
It's a walkaway, but maybe not fly away:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lhUO4pdGCf8




Yeah, a tad fast at touchdown, but what's his excuse for the rest of
it?!!!!!!


Bertie

"JGalban via AviationKB.com" u32749@uwe wrote in
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Mike Isaksen wrote:

Here's a painful one to watch. Good vid to show students about why
airspeed is important.
It's a walkaway, but maybe not fly away:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lhUO4pdGCf8

That looks like a classic porpoise. I'll have to admit, I've never
seen an
airliner do one, though they're not uncommon if you hang around a GA
airport with a lot of training activity. On GA planes, the nose gear
will usually collapse on the third or fouth bounce.

Airspeed is not the only key to avoiding one of these. They're
usually
entered by touching down with a flat or nose low attitude.


Well, your airspeed will dictate your attitude at touchdown!



Trying to
force the airplane onto the runway before it's ready is good way to
get one started. =

Yeah. It's the best way, certainly.
Airliners do do this from time to time. I know of several. One, a 727
had massive damage done to the fuselage and had to have the entire top
of it reskinned from the leading edge to the cockpit. A 737 that bounced
off the nosewheel, then went around. the crew discovered they had no
ailerons once airborne since the nosewheel had punched the forward
bulkhead so hard into the belly that it slackened the aileron control
runs. I've seen both of these airplanes soon after the event as well as
several others. It should be harder to do in a jet than a light plane
since the attitude should be a bit more nose high for a given VS-Vref
ratio due to the leading edge devices, but some guys manage it anyway!


Bertie

Jay Honeck wrote:
As many of you know, I host one of the largest collections of aviation
videos on the internet. (See it he
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm ) As a result, I
receive a LOT of videos, sent in from all over the world, and have seen
all manner of landings on film.

This one I received a few days ago, however, must rank as the worst
airliner landing ever recorded on video. If nothing else it serves as a
testament to the forgotten aircraft engineers who put their sweat into
designing a very tough little jet.

I think this is why that, other than for a carrier landing, it is
recommended that one FLARE before landing. :-)

Matt

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in
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http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga...2-LondonCityBa
dLanding_BAE146.wmv

How the **** would you know, jerkoff?

Bertie

Well how the jerk would you know, **** off?

"Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in news:ZRaQj.11646$3N1.9712
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in
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http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga...eos/2008-4-22-
LondonCityBa
dLanding_BAE146.wmv

How the **** would you know, jerkoff?

Bertie

Well how the jerk would you know, **** off?


I know and you know I know.



Bertie

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"Panic" wrote in
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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As many of you know, I host one of the largest collections of
aviation videos on the internet. (See it he
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm ) As a result, I
receive a LOT of videos, sent in from all over the world, and have
seen all manner of landings on film.

This one I received a few days ago, however, must rank as the worst
airliner landing ever recorded on video. If nothing else it serves
as a testament to the forgotten aircraft engineers who put their
sweat into designing a very tough little jet.

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga...eos/2008-4-22-
LondonCityB
adLanding_BAE146.wmv

(If that wraps wrong, try: http://tinyurl.com/556h2d )

Here's the commentary from the fellow who submitted the video, Geno
Becker:

"For those who want to fly to London City Airport, a cross wind adds
to the excitement (in addition to the short runway and steep
approach). The airport itself is located on the river Thames in
downtown London, and gives business people very quick access to the
city. The Millennium Dome is in the left side of the picture."

"The runway is only 1199 meters long, which is very short in airline
runway terms, thus it is only suitable for aircraft with good STOL
(short take-off and landing) performance. It also has a 5.5 degree
glide slope, as opposed to the conventional 3 degree slope to most
runways. The BAE 146 is the main jet type to operate into the place.
Most other aircraft are turbo props etc."

"When doing the approach you have to be fully configured, i.e., gear
down, full flaps and speed brakes before you commence descent from
3000 feet...or you won't get stopped before reaching the far end of
the runway. If it doesn't look or feel right it is generally a good
idea to give it away and have another attempt. For whatever reason,
this flight crew decided to press, but they DID make the first turn
off the runway. If nothing else, it's a testament to the toughness of
the BAE 146 airframe. The pilots handled it like a dirtbike!"

You can frequently make the first turn off if you are willing to
absorb your forward momentum energy with the impact!!!!




Ooops! Sory, friendly fire.

Disregard.


Bertie

Good shot retard.

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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It kind of looks like it had a belly strike on the way down...


Expert on those are you?

Bertie

Least he posted it to the right message.

"Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in news:8UaQj.11648$3N1.277
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"Panic" wrote in
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:VC1Qj.80601$TT4.43104@attbi_s22...
As many of you know, I host one of the largest collections of
aviation videos on the internet. (See it he
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm ) As a result, I
receive a LOT of videos, sent in from all over the world, and have
seen all manner of landings on film.

This one I received a few days ago, however, must rank as the worst
airliner landing ever recorded on video. If nothing else it serves
as a testament to the forgotten aircraft engineers who put their
sweat into designing a very tough little jet.

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga...eos/2008-4-22-
LondonCityB
adLanding_BAE146.wmv

(If that wraps wrong, try: http://tinyurl.com/556h2d )

Here's the commentary from the fellow who submitted the video, Geno
Becker:

"For those who want to fly to London City Airport, a cross wind
adds
to the excitement (in addition to the short runway and steep
approach). The airport itself is located on the river Thames in
downtown London, and gives business people very quick access to the
city. The Millennium Dome is in the left side of the picture."

"The runway is only 1199 meters long, which is very short in
airline
runway terms, thus it is only suitable for aircraft with good STOL
(short take-off and landing) performance. It also has a 5.5 degree
glide slope, as opposed to the conventional 3 degree slope to most
runways. The BAE 146 is the main jet type to operate into the
place.
Most other aircraft are turbo props etc."

"When doing the approach you have to be fully configured, i.e.,
gear
down, full flaps and speed brakes before you commence descent from
3000 feet...or you won't get stopped before reaching the far end of
the runway. If it doesn't look or feel right it is generally a good
idea to give it away and have another attempt. For whatever reason,
this flight crew decided to press, but they DID make the first turn
off the runway. If nothing else, it's a testament to the toughness
of
the BAE 146 airframe. The pilots handled it like a dirtbike!"

You can frequently make the first turn off if you are willing to
absorb your forward momentum energy with the impact!!!!




Ooops! Sory, friendly fire.

Disregard.


Bertie

Good shot retard.


Well, i needn't even shoot at you, since you do it to yourself so well!



BTW, i thought you had run away? What happened? miss me?


Bertie

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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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It kind of looks like it had a belly strike on the way down...


Expert on those are you?

Bertie

Least he posted it to the right message.


oh no! Are you going to be mean to me again? Please don't! It's just too
scary!

Bwawhawhhahwhahwhahwhahwhhahwhhwhahhwhwhwhhwh!


Bertie

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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It kind of looks like it had a belly strike on the way down...


Expert on those are you?

Bertie

Least he posted it to the right message.


oh no! Are you going to be mean to me again? Please don't! It's just too
scary!

Bwawhawhhahwhahwhahwhahwhhahwhhwhahhwhwhwhhwh!


Bertie





Here you go again, biting like a hungry carp. You just can't stop can you.
You put your hands in you pants, and even turn off the computer. But ya just
can't stay away.

You go lamer.