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Ricky wrote:
On Aug 13, 4:05?pm, wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:
Ricky writes:
Anthony, NO, NO, NO! You do not have to fly exclusively by instruments
in IMC. There are often conditions IN LEGAL IMC where on flys by
visual reference.
Legally, you must be on instruments.

Care to quote the law or regulation that says you must be "on instruments"
whenever you are in IMC?

--
Jim Pennino

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Whoa, please be careful. The above looks like I, Ricky, am the one who
said that ("Legally, you must be on instruments.")
I did not say that, our resident IFR expert Anthony did, and it most
certainly is wrong. By the way you did not trim the post/reply it
looks like I said it.
Trimming posts properly here seems to be oft ignored or done
incorrectly.

The attributions are automatic and follow the RFC's.


--
Jim Pennino

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On Aug 13, 3:58*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Ricky writes:
Anthony, NO, NO, NO! You do not have to fly exclusively by instruments
in IMC. There are often conditions IN LEGAL IMC where on flys by
visual reference.

Legally, you must be on instruments. *The law isn't written that way just to
make life difficult for pilots.

You can always rely on instruments, even in the clearest weather. *But you
cannot always rely on visual references. *And if you are in IMC, you may only
be seconds away from a loss of visual references.

IFR DOES NOT mean "flying by instruments alone." You are wrong! Show
me where you learned this gibberish if you are so sure about it.

I'll quote you to the NTSB; that might make it easier for them to determine
probable cause after you're gone.

The reason they are disagreeing with you is because you are NOT a
pilot ...

The reason they are disagreeing with me is that their desire to prove me wrong
is so intense that it takes priority over their own safety. *If they cannot
shake themselves free of this emotion, they will be a danger to themselves in
the air.

You have a significant problem if you think any experienced instrument
rated pilot will base his or her flying on posts you've made. We are
safe pilots because we work at developing and using superior judgment.
That you have no experience in flying, or as best we can tell, using
superior judgment in your posts tells us all we need to know about
you. You are simply, very often as demonstrated here, an ignorant
diversion.

writes:

EVERY current instrument rated pilot does transitions between
reference to instruments and outside reference.

When did the discussion become limited to IR pilots? Most pilots in this
newsgroup rather obviously do not have instrument ratings, if one can judge by
what they claim about IMC and IFR.

writes:

If you are in class G at 10,001 feet and the visibilty is 4.5 miles,
you are in IMC.

If you drop down to 9,999 feet with the same visibilty, you are in VMC.

If you are 2001 feet horizontally from a cloud, you only about 0.3
seconds away from not being able to see anything. Are you ready for
that?

Have you a clue yet how ridiculous your absolute statements are?

Not having an aircraft that can manage Mach 5, it's hard for me to put your
claim in perspective.

What puzzles me is that you're trying to justify behavior that is
extraordinarily unwise. Trying to see how close you can come to inadequate
visibility without actually flying by instruments is asking for trouble. I
can only assume that you are doing this because I'm advocating reliance on
instruments, despite the fact that I'm just repeating some very
well-established principles of aviation.

On Aug 13, 10:45*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:
EVERY current instrument rated *pilot does transitions between
reference to instruments and outside reference.

When did the discussion become limited to IR pilots? *Most pilots in this
newsgroup rather obviously do not have instrument ratings, if one can judge by
what they claim about IMC and IFR.

You were the one making definitive statements about flight in IMC, and
you are clearly not knowledgeable.

writes:

Care to quote the law or regulation that says you must be "on instruments"
whenever you are in IMC?

This is a bit like asking for a law that prohibits you from grabbing live
wires and electrocuting yourself. Why do you exhibit this adversarial
attitude towards instrument flight?

You can often depart SVFR in poor weather, but just because you aren't
absolutely required to be IFR doesn't mean that SVFR is a smart idea. If you
want to fly in marginal weather conditions, get an instrument rating instead
of gambling on technicalities; you'll live longer.

writes:

The attributions are automatic ...

So are autopilots, but the FAA says that you're still PIC.

Ricky writes:

You don't have to be proven wrong. You simply ARE wrong. Why can't you
accept that from of a bunch of IFR pilots with thousands of hours?

Most pilots here are not instrument rated, and some of those who are are more
interested in scoring points against me in a one-sided game than in following
the path of safety. I will not yield to this, so there's no sense in trying
it.

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On Aug 13, 10:45 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:
EVERY current instrument rated pilot does transitions between
reference to instruments and outside reference.

When did the discussion become limited to IR pilots? Most pilots in this
newsgroup rather obviously do not have instrument ratings, if one can
judge by
what they claim about IMC and IFR.

One can NOT.

You were the one making definitive statements about flight in IMC, and
you are clearly not knowledgeable.



--
Regards, BobF.

writes:

You have a significant problem if you think any experienced instrument
rated pilot will base his or her flying on posts you've made.

An experienced instrument pilot already knows the point I'm trying to make
(whether he's willing to publicly admit that or not is a separate question).

We are safe pilots because we work at developing and using superior judgment.

Superior judgement includes the ability to rely solely on instruments when
necessary, and always on instruments as a final authority.