TO RULES COMMETTEE PLEASE READ – Nationals no ballast day

AK,

I understand your displeasure at the prospect of having a wing loading
disadvantage that you can do nothing about on a particular contest
day. But I do not understand your disagreement with the RC.

Yes a glider like the ASG-29/15M will have an advantage over the Diana
2 on a non-ballast day. But that assumes the conditions will be good.
The Diana 2 will have the advantage when conditions are weak, and the
-29 pilot will not be able to do a darn thing about it. Both pilots
picked their gliders before the contest with the advance knowledge
that some days they'll have an edge, some days they won't. It is
unreasonable to expect rules (and RC) to come up with "fairness" in
these situations.

Quod erat demonstrandum. Go fly.

2NO

Hello 2NO,

You are correct. I can say also Diana 2 shouldn't be dangerous to fly without water but dangerous to outland with water or other ballast....

Have experience with "Flying Diana 2" but also with "non flying" serial number and not only because I am light pilot but also because a lot of factory faults (production but also in design).

Suggestion for this trouble with "no ballast day". What about standard weight in cockpit? means Pilot + parachute + ballast which will be the some for all gliders? May be 90 kg limit and who will be over will be over... (or without BBQ from start of contest to minimalize this "natural handicap" )

BTW I understand AK also. He is Polish and Diana is Polish also. Try to find more about AK's Polish proud when you type in Google VH-VHZ. You will find also forums, where is AK trying to change usual rules between customer and producer...

Have a nice day,

Unhappy pilot experienced with Diana 2, serial No. 3 VH-VHZ

VHZ

PS. Now I know what it means VH-VHZ...
(Voodoo-Hunt -Victim Hana Zejdova)

PSS. Sorry for my English....

Originally Posted by Tuno

AK,

I understand your displeasure at the prospect of having a wing loading
disadvantage that you can do nothing about on a particular contest
day. But I do not understand your disagreement with the RC.

Yes a glider like the ASG-29/15M will have an advantage over the Diana
2 on a non-ballast day. But that assumes the conditions will be good.
The Diana 2 will have the advantage when conditions are weak, and the
-29 pilot will not be able to do a darn thing about it. Both pilots
picked their gliders before the contest with the advance knowledge
that some days they'll have an edge, some days they won't. It is
unreasonable to expect rules (and RC) to come up with "fairness" in
these situations.

Quod erat demonstrandum. Go fly.

2NO

Amen

On Feb 14, 7:48*am, VHZ wrote:
Hello 2NO,

You are correct. I can say also Diana 2 shouldn't be dangerous to fly
without water but dangerous to outland with water or other ballast....

Have experience with "Flying Diana 2" but also with "non flying" serial
number and not only because I am light pilot but also because a lot of
factory faults (production but also in design).

Suggestion for this trouble with "no ballast day". What about standard
weight in cockpit? means Pilot + parachute + ballast which will be the
some for all gliders? May be 90 kg limit and who will be over will be
over... (or without BBQ from start of contest )

BTW I understand AK also. He is Polish and Diana is Polish also. Try to
find more about Polish proud when you type in Google VH-VHZ. You will
find also forums, where is AK trying to change usual rules between
customer and producer...

Have a nice day,

Unhappy pilot experienced with Diana 2, serial No. 3 VH-VHZ

VHZ

PS. Now I know what it means VH-VHZ...
(Voodoo-Hunt -Victim Hana Zejdova)

PSS. Sorry for my English....

Tuno;680160 Wrote:



AK,

I understand your displeasure at the prospect of having a wing loading
disadvantage that you can do nothing about on a particular contest
day. But I do not understand your disagreement with the RC.

Yes a glider like the ASG-29/15M will have an advantage over the Diana
2 on a non-ballast day. But that assumes the conditions will be good.
The Diana 2 will have the advantage when conditions are weak, and the
-29 pilot will not be able to do a darn thing about it. Both pilots
picked their gliders before the contest with the advance knowledge
that some days they'll have an edge, some days they won't. It is
unreasonable to expect rules (and RC) to come up with "fairness" in
these situations.

Quod erat demonstrandum. Go fly.

2NO

--
VHZ

Please take your case to court and off public newsgroups. You will do
much better there. You can’t possibly dream to resolve your problems
here and if you want to educate us on Diana 2 you already did so. We
know everything by now.

AK wrote:
--

Please take your case to court and off public newsgroups. You will do
much better there. You can’t possibly dream to resolve your problems
here and if you want to educate us on Diana 2 you already did so. We
know everything by now.[/quote]

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VHZ answered:

Dear AK,

We know each other from past forums. Also from Polish gliding forum from where threads about Diana 2 VH-VHZ serial No.3 were cleared by admin. Simply with your suggestion to take this case to courtyou are sending me to jungle to claim there sunshine. Polish court will be only delay - not chance to dream about a rightness. You know about it more that any one else here...

I think that best court is public court. We are gliding community and not all of us are from past East bloc where justice is still long way from rightness. Have look your self. Polish proud is very strong and is very low chance, that a Polish court will (like) ever to confirm wrongs of a Polish designer, a Polish factory, a Polish technical control or a Polish test pilot, a Polish aviation authority..... (all of them are involved in this case) when this product is on level of Polish national proud and as a project is sponsored by Polish government.

Safe flying!

VHZ

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PS. I just found out AK as author of this thread is planning to delete it from google group.
It is not surprising me.... Polish (and he is Polish living in USA) are not very happy to talk about theses production and producer's faults...
See below:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...9c78abde3087f3
groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.soaring/msg/b99c78abde3087f3


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