Enough said

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
nk.net...

"B2431" wrote in message
...

The French fleet showing up off Yorktown also seems to have convinced
Cornwallis it was time to cut his losses and quit.


Well, turning back the evacuation force tends to do that.

No, but you have come a step closer to reality.

The 300 cannon would have cut the English lines to bits, just as easily as
they could have turned the English fleet to splinters. Washington had set a
trap and it worked.

Perhaps the French delayed the English long enough for the trap to be
completed.

I'm not like you. Under attack, I steel do not feel any anger...
Anger is on your side, because you don't like to be confronted to your
paradoxes...

(ArtKramr) wrote in message ...
An officer in the U.S. naval Reserve was attending a conference that included
admirals from both the U.S. Navy and the French Navy. At a cocktail reception,
he found himself in a small group that included personnel from both navies.

The French Admiral started complaining that whereas Europeans learned many
languages, Americans learned only English. He then asked, "Why is it that we
have to speak English in these conferences rather than you speak French?"

Without hesitating, the American Admiral replied, "Maybe it's because the
Brits, Canadians, Aussies and Americans arranged it so you would not have to
speak in German."

Yeah not bad. Although frankly it would fair to put russians,
ukranians, belorussians, kazahs etc soviet people on the first place.
After
all those "soviet barbarians" actually eliminater 80+% of German
armed force both in terms of man power and equipment.


The group became silent.

I would like to hope he was thinking about above.

Michael


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

ubject: Enough said
From: (Michael Petukhov)
Date: 1/16/04 4:18 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

(ArtKramr) wrote in message
...
An officer in the U.S. naval Reserve was attending a conference that
included
admirals from both the U.S. Navy and the French Navy. At a cocktail
reception,
he found himself in a small group that included personnel from both navies.

The French Admiral started complaining that whereas Europeans learned many
languages, Americans learned only English. He then asked, "Why is it that
we
have to speak English in these conferences rather than you speak French?"

Without hesitating, the American Admiral replied, "Maybe it's because the
Brits, Canadians, Aussies and Americans arranged it so you would not have
to
speak in German."

Yeah not bad. Although frankly it would fair to put russians,
ukranians, belorussians, kazahs etc soviet people on the first place.
After
all those "soviet barbarians" actually eliminater 80+% of German
armed force both in terms of man power and equipment.


The group became silent.

I would like to hope he was thinking about above.

Michael


Yes, but he added, " with the extensive help of US equipement:, food, trucks,
planes, ammunition all shipped at great risks and losses via the Murmansk run"
I am sure he addded that. (grin)


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

Subject: Enough said
From: (Michael Petukhov)
Date: 1/16/2004 6:18 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(ArtKramr) wrote in message
...
An officer in the U.S. naval Reserve was attending a conference that
included
admirals from both the U.S. Navy and the French Navy. At a cocktail
reception,
he found himself in a small group that included personnel from both navies.

The French Admiral started complaining that whereas Europeans learned many
languages, Americans learned only English. He then asked, "Why is it that
we
have to speak English in these conferences rather than you speak French?"

Without hesitating, the American Admiral replied, "Maybe it's because the
Brits, Canadians, Aussies and Americans arranged it so you would not have
to
speak in German."

Yeah not bad. Although frankly it would fair to put russians,
ukranians, belorussians, kazahs etc soviet people on the first place.
After
all those "soviet barbarians" actually eliminater 80+% of German
armed force both in terms of man power and equipment.



/// SNIP ///

The Germans might not have had all that equipment for the Russians
(er....Soviets) to eliminate had not Stalin signed a non-aggression pact with
Hitler in effect agreeing to Hitler's war with Europe.


Ed
"The French couldn't hate us any
more unless we helped 'em out in another war."
--Will Rogers



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Subject: Enough said
From: heotrpg (RobbelothE)
Date: 1/16/04 5:43 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

Subject: Enough said
From: (Michael Petukhov)
Date: 1/16/2004 6:18 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(ArtKramr) wrote in message
...
An officer in the U.S. naval Reserve was attending a conference that
included
admirals from both the U.S. Navy and the French Navy. At a cocktail
reception,
he found himself in a small group that included personnel from both
navies.

The French Admiral started complaining that whereas Europeans learned many
languages, Americans learned only English. He then asked, "Why is it that
we
have to speak English in these conferences rather than you speak French?"

Without hesitating, the American Admiral replied, "Maybe it's because the
Brits, Canadians, Aussies and Americans arranged it so you would not have
to
speak in German."

Yeah not bad. Although frankly it would fair to put russians,
ukranians, belorussians, kazahs etc soviet people on the first place.
After
all those "soviet barbarians" actually eliminater 80+% of German
armed force both in terms of man power and equipment.



/// SNIP ///

The Germans might not have had all that equipment for the Russians
(er....Soviets) to eliminate had not Stalin signed a non-aggression pact with
Hitler in effect agreeing to Hitler's war with Europe.


Ed
"The French couldn't hate us any
more unless we helped 'em out in another war."
--Will Rogers


But we never will. Too much Ammrican blood in French soil as it is. And then
they accuse us of :doing it for the money" instead of thanking us for saving
them.



Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

But we never will. Too much Ammrican blood in French soil as it is. And
then
they accuse us of :doing it for the money" instead of thanking us for
saving
them.


ROTFLMAO
Change your attitude towards the French and maybe I'll think about it.
You can't seriously expect any regards considering the stuff you said here
since you arrived. It's mere common sense, not politics!


--
Pierre-Henri Baras
___________________________
French Fleet Air Arm
http://www.ffaa.net

Encyclopédie de l'Aviation
http://www.aviation-fr.info

Subject: Enough said
From: "Pierre-Henri Baras"
Date: 1/16/04 11:00 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

But we never will. Too much Ammrican blood in French soil as it is. And
then
they accuse us of :doing it for the money" instead of thanking us for
saving
them.


ROTFLMAO
Change your attitude towards the French and maybe I'll think about it.
You can't seriously expect any regards considering the stuff you said here
since you arrived. It's mere common sense, not politics!


--
Pierre-Henri Baras

I assume that is an apology and a thank you for all the American blood that
went into liberating France.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

In article ,
says...
Steven P. McNicoll wrote :

Who helped USA to get its independence from UK ?
Enough said.

Yup. Without the help of France the US would be an
English-speaking country today.

LOL. I'm sure you've understood what i meant.
But imagine, without France you'd still have the 5 o'clock tea and a
Queen :-p

You havn't been to San Fransisco have you ?


--
When dealing with propaganda terminology one sometimes always speaks in
variable absolutes. This is not to be mistaken for an unbiased slant.

"Michael Petukhov" wrote in message
om...

Yeah not bad. Although frankly it would fair to put russians,
ukranians, belorussians, kazahs etc soviet people on the first place.
After
all those "soviet barbarians" actually eliminater 80+% of German
armed force both in terms of man power and equipment.


How much of the German armed force both in terms of man power and equipment
did those "Soviet barbarians" eliminate from France?