Simulators

On May 17, 8:19*am, Mxsmanic wrote:

How do you train for things that are inherently very dangerous?

By flying and training with instructors who actually fly..

On May 16, 3:19*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

If a pilot needs fear of death to fly correctly and safely, he has a serious
psychological problem. And if the risk of death is part of the appeal of
flying for him, he also has a serious problem. Both of these are highly
correlated with poor piloting.

WRONG.

george writes:

By flying and training with instructors who actually fly..

If the instructor or student makes a mistake, then what?

In a real aircraft, training for emergency situations may be more hazardous
than not training for them, particularly if the emergency is rare in normal
operation or is difficult to recover from.

In simulators, the cost of training for recovery from a specific emergency
must be balanced against the cost of training to avoid it, or training for
some other situation. Another consideration for simulation is whether or not
the simulator correctly simulates unusual situations--the most accurate
simulators are driven by databases built from actual test flights, and if
there is no data for a specific flight regime, the simulation cannot be relied
upon. At the same time, however, the regime in question might be so dangerous
in real life that using a real aircraft is out of the question.

Do airline pilots train for spin recovery in their airliners?

writes:

WRONG.

I'm sure the NTSB will mention this in its report.

They say the last words of many private pilots before an accident are often
"Watch this!"

Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:

Only for a subset of things that do not require actual flight to teach,
such as how to do real flight planning.

Hardly anything requires actual flight to teach.

If that nonsense were true the US Air Force wouldn't have a fleet of
primary trainers.


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Jim Pennino

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Mxsmanic wrote:
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MSFS does not taxit like any real airplane.

That depends on the aircraft.

Nope.

A MSFS C-172 does not taxi like a real C-172, nor do any of the other
MSFS airplanes I've tryed.

Exactly which aircraft have you tried?

Irrelevant; that the C-172 doesn't is sufficient to prove the point.



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Jim Pennino

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Mxsmanic wrote:
birdog writes:

Pilots die as a result of major lapses in judgement. I'm not saying
that's part of the appeal, but it tends to sharpen attention, and
increase the heart rate.

If a pilot needs fear of death to fly correctly and safely, he has a serious
psychological problem. And if the risk of death is part of the appeal of
flying for him, he also has a serious problem. Both of these are highly
correlated with poor piloting.

What part of "tends to sharpen attention, and increase the heart rate" do
you not understand?

Don't tell me these things never happen to a
seasoned pilot. With proper training, these things become incidents, not
disasters. And panic creates disasters.

How do you train for things that are inherently very dangerous?

Very carefully, obviously.


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Jim Pennino

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writes:

If that nonsense were true the US Air Force wouldn't have a fleet of
primary trainers.

How much time do their students spend learning things in classrooms, and how
much time do they spend learning things in the air?

writes:

Nope.

Yup. Different aircraft taxi in different ways, and this is simulated,
particularly by add-on aircraft.

Irrelevant; that the C-172 doesn't is sufficient to prove the point.

I'm afraid not. You would know this if you had flown a large selection of
aircraft in the sim.

writes:

What part of "tends to sharpen attention, and increase the heart rate" do
you not understand?

As I've explaind, if you need a risk of death to sharpen your attention,
there's something wrong. A disciplined pilot pays careful attention whether
his life is on the line or not, and he does it without tachycardia.

Very carefully, obviously.

How do you determine which is riskier: actually doing a dangerous maneuver in
order to learn how to recover from it, or learning to avoid it and/or learning
something else in its place?