Why We Lost The Vietnam War

"Peter Stickney" wrote in message
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"Spiv" writes:

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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The Britannia was a Brabazon phase, so was the Comet. That makes two
types with many planes.

You're confusing the committee with the hardware.

They did they
adopted...........again..........sigh..........p ressurised
cabin,

The Boeing 307 had that ten years before the Brabazon.

hydraulic power units to operate control surfaces,

The Curtiss CW20 had that ten years before the Brabazon.

But not all the points together.

Actually, it did.

No it never. "All" the points.

The Brabazon was a failed concept,
intended to take a few paying
passengers,

You mean Brab 1. Some excellent planes emerged from the Brabazon project.

BOAC saw what they might be getting, and bought Stratoliners and
Constellations instead.

And later Comets and Britannia's, etc too. And currently Airbuses which are
now No.1 The days of the yank dominating civil aviation are over.

"Brett" wrote in message
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"Peter Stickney" wrote:
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Viscounts were used on similar runs in the UK unless the 70s too,
until
being replaced by mainly BAC 1-11s (another brilliant little gem).
Now
the
Viscount was a superb turboprop, being the first turboprop airliner in
the
world. It had a wonderful distinctive sound.

And, in fact, it's taken you around 100 posts to actually arrive at
the one truly successful airliner that the Brits have been able to
produce. (I don't win the pool - my bet was for 50 posts.)

But how more posts before he indicates any knowledge about its ancestry?

Enlighten us.

"Spiv" wrote in message
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Two highly successful one were mentioned. Also there was Concorde and
small
high winged BAe hopper jet, which sold very well. I have used that in
Africa a lot.


BWAHAHAHAHAHA

BAE didnt even bloody exist during the tenure of the Brabazon committee
and the BAE 146 first flew in 1982, over 30 years after its demise.

The aircraft ordered by the Brabazon committee as a DC-3
replacement was the Airspeed Ambassador, a twin engine turboprop.

Keith

"Brett" wrote in message
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But how more posts before he indicates any knowledge about its ancestry?


He has yet to produce a post that indicates any knowledge at all.

"Spiv" wrote in message
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Enlighten us.


Us? Who are "us"?

"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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I
was 6, on my way to the German GP in 1961. btw. I see you still
haven't
figured out what Brabazon Committee specifications could have been
considered a "success".

You were told 111. now look.



Trouble is that the Barabazon committee decided not to proceed
with the type III declaring it unimportant so while Bristol
had indeed done some design studies no aircraft was actually
produced.

The Britannia came from 111.

BOAC in turn desparing at the spiralling red tape that was
effectively stifling development issued its own specn for
a Medium Range Empire Airliner (MRE) to replace its
Lockheed Constellations.

Five companies entered the bidding and the contract went to
Bristol with their submission, the type 175 Brittania.

"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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Two highly successful one were mentioned. Also there was Concorde and
small
high winged BAe hopper jet, which sold very well. I have used that in
Africa a lot.


BWAHAHAHAHAHA

BAE didnt even bloody exist during the tenure of the Brabazon committee
and the BAE 146 first flew in 1982, over 30 years after its demise.

The debate moved on. Duh.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Brett" wrote in message
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But how more posts before he indicates any knowledge about its ancestry?

He has yet to produce a post that indicates any knowledge at all.

Then enlighten us about its ancestry.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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Enlighten us.


Us? Who are "us"?

The ng. Who do you think?

"Spiv" wrote in message
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Trouble is that the Barabazon committee decided not to proceed
with the type III declaring it unimportant so while Bristol
had indeed done some design studies no aircraft was actually
produced.

The Britannia came from 111.


Repetition of an error doesnt make it any less wrong.

BOAC in turn desparing at the spiralling red tape that was
effectively stifling development issued its own specn for
a Medium Range Empire Airliner (MRE) to replace its
Lockheed Constellations.

Five companies entered the bidding and the contract went to
Bristol with their submission, the type 175 Brittania.



Keith