Why We Lost The Vietnam War

"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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That can be said for far away British possessions too.

No sir, the British possessions are not constutionally part of the
United Kingdom, Greenland is for the moment at least
part of the Kingdom of Denmark

As is Gibraltar I believe, to eliminate the word colony.

I was very careful not to use the word colony

Nevertheless,
neither Gib is part of the UK nor is Greenland a part of Denmark.


Here lies the difference

Gibraltar is not part of the UK, its voters do not elect members
of the British parliament and it has its own currency , sets its own
taxation and in all ways ecept foreign affairs and defence is
completely independent

The electors of Greenland DO elect members to the Danish Parliament,
they use the Danish Kroner and are subject to Danish Law.
They are in fact LESS independent than is Scotland which has
its own Parliament, issues its own banknotes and has its own body
of law.

Dependencies, crown dominions, colonies, overseas territories, or
whatever,
they are not a part of the their mother countries, although owned by
them.
They are separate entities.


There are considerable differences in status between a dominion,
colony and overseas territory but Greenland is NONE of the
above, politically it is a part of Denmark


What you are saying make The Le reunion islands in the southern Indian
Ocean
a part of France, the same geographical territory.


La Reunion is an overeas department of France, most residents
vehemently oppose independence. Its official currency is the Euro.
IT IS A PART of the geopolilitcal entity we call France. Its citizens
hold French passports, they use the Euro, Jacques Chirac is their
president
etc.

France is NOT repeat NOT a geographical territory. Its
a political construct who's geographical boundaries have changed at
least 3 times since 1870. French Guiana is also a department of France
like any other but geographically it happens to lie in
Central America. Its citizens hold French passports, they
use the Euro, Jacques Chirac is their president etc.

Nation states are not synonymous with the real estate they
sit on. Denmark like the United Kingdom , Germany and
Poland is a POLITICAL entity NOT a geographical one.

We can look at it the other way. The Isle of Man is not in the EU and has
some strange binding, non-binding link wit the UK. It is right in the
middle of the UK with the UK either side of it. It means nothing as it IS a
part of the UK by proximity.

La Reunion, Greenland, Gib, Falklands, Puerto Rico, Greenland etc are NOT a
part of their mother countries (the country that has sovereignty over them).
They are separate entities, irrespective of what they are politically
called.

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That it was not

Deliveries began in 1965 , the Boeing 727 entered service in 1964
and the Tupolev TU-124 entered service between Moscow and
Ulyanovsk in December 1962

The 727 was a larger plane.



The 727-100 could carry 131 pax, the contemporary
BAC-111-400 carried 89

Substantially bigger.



But still a short haul airliner that entered service before the
BAC-111 contrary to your claim that the 111 was first.

More medium haul.

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France is NOT repeat NOT a geographical territory. Its
a political construct who's geographical boundaries have changed at
least 3 times since 1870. French Guiana is also a department of France
like any other but geographically it happens to lie in
Central America. Its citizens hold French passports, they
use the Euro, Jacques Chirac is their president etc.

Nation states are not synonymous with the real estate they
sit on. Denmark like the United Kingdom , Germany and
Poland is a POLITICAL entity NOT a geographical one.

We can look at it the other way. The Isle of Man is not in the EU and has
some strange binding, non-binding link wit the UK. It is right in the
middle of the UK with the UK either side of it. It means nothing as it IS
a
part of the UK by proximity.


It is NOT part of the UK
It is part of the British Isles

One is a poltical entity the other goegraphical

La Reunion, Greenland, Gib, Falklands, Puerto Rico, Greenland etc are NOT
a
part of their mother countries (the country that has sovereignty over
them).

SOME are , having the same sovereignty is what defines a nation state.

La Reunion , Guiana and a part of the European continent make up the
country called France.

England is a geographical entity that is part of
the political entity called England and Wales

England and Wales are in turn part of that political enity
called the United Kingdom. The UK IS a nation state,
Scotland, NI, Wales and England are not at present but have been
in the past.

Countries change even when geography is static.
The territiry known as AlsaceLorraine has at various times
in the past century been both part of France and part of
Germany.

They are separate entities, irrespective of what they are politically
called.

Please TRY and understand that political entities and geographical entities
are not the same thing. One describes the topology of the planet and
the other the political system under which it is ruled.


Keith

"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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France is NOT repeat NOT a geographical territory. Its
a political construct who's geographical boundaries have changed at
least 3 times since 1870. French Guiana is also a department of France
like any other but geographically it happens to lie in
Central America. Its citizens hold French passports, they
use the Euro, Jacques Chirac is their president etc.

Nation states are not synonymous with the real estate they
sit on. Denmark like the United Kingdom , Germany and
Poland is a POLITICAL entity NOT a geographical one.

We can look at it the other way. The Isle of Man is not in the EU and
has
some strange binding, non-binding link wit the UK. It is right in the
middle of the UK with the UK either side of it. It means nothing as it
IS
a
part of the UK by proximity.


It is NOT part of the UK
It is part of the British Isles

One is a poltical entity the other goegraphical

La Reunion, Greenland, Gib, Falklands, Puerto Rico, Greenland etc are
NOT
a
part of their mother countries (the country that has sovereignty over
them).

SOME are , having the same sovereignty is what defines a nation state.

La Reunion , Guiana and a part of the European continent make up the
country called France.

England is a geographical entity that is part of
the political entity called England and Wales

England and Wales are in turn part of that political enity
called the United Kingdom. The UK IS a nation state,
Scotland, NI, Wales and England are not at present but have been
in the past.

Countries change even when geography is static.
The territiry known as AlsaceLorraine has at various times
in the past century been both part of France and part of
Germany.

They are separate entities, irrespective of what they are politically
called.

Please TRY and understand that political entities and geographical
entities
are not the same thing.

I know exactly what they are. Overseas territories, are just that, no
matter what the sovereign state calls them.

"Spiv" wrote in message
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Read about the Brababzon project.


I'm familiar with the Brabazon project. If you read about it then you can
become familiar with it as well.



We know.


Who are "we"?

"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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Deliveries began in 1965 , the Boeing 727 entered service in 1964
and the Tupolev TU-124 entered service between Moscow and
Ulyanovsk in December 1962


SAS began Caravelle operations in April 1959.

"Spiv" wrote in message
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The 727 was a larger plane.


The 727 was marketed as a short/medium haul transport.

"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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The Tu-104 was in service before the Comet 4 and 707
for sure.


The Tu-104 began passenger operations in September 1956.



I once flew to Moscow in one during the
mid 70's , strange aircraft with that glazed nose one
almost expected to see a bombardier sitting there.


The Tu-104 was essentially a modified Tu-16 bomber.

"Spiv" wrote in message
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Unable to apply logic


Good. Recognizing your limitations is the first step.

"Spiv" wrote in message
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You lack basic logic and reasoning.


That's not a determination you're able to make.



The point: The UK is not small.


It depends on one's point of view. Review my previous message.



It is. I have been though most.


Then you have an odd definition of "useless".