FLARM for SAR

PowerFLARM IGC logging is in Beta.

SAR function has been in the product forever
in legacy FLARM and is part of logging function.

FYI We would be glad to integrate such a functionality in our SkyLines platform (http://skylines.xcsoar.org)

On Thursday, October 25, 2012 8:47:25 PM UTC-4, Dave Nadler wrote:
PowerFLARM IGC logging is in Beta.



SAR function has been in the product forever

in legacy FLARM and is part of logging function.

It would be nice to finally have an approved logger in PF by spring 2013 ( I "prepaid for my brick in 2010, got hardware this summer, can you believe that it still is not complete?).

-Jim

http://www.flarm.com/support/SAR_Text.pdf


Interesting that the FLARM-recorded igc file also records the position of nearby targets. Will this feature be present on the USA PowerFLARM when the igc recording function is activated?

Yes, it will.

FLARM/PowerFLARM records only a subset of the targets received, due to memory constraints.
We do try to record a target when it was first and last seen, though. Both
of which is important for range analysis and SAR.

We do not plan to release the SAR software at this point.

Best
--Gerhard

We do not plan to release the SAR software at this point.

I guess nobody expects you to release the software that you have written. It would be great though if the data format of these SAR relevant information was not kept as a secret. The new FLARM specification suggests that even all the PDA software solutions are supposed to record these information and that even without knowledge of what is actually getting recorded.

Once again, your software is your property and nobody suggests that you give that up for free, but the information in the IGC files of each individual pilot should be open and readable by the pilot if he chooses to do so. This would be the basis to provide such a service directly in platforms like the OLC or SkyLines.

Turbo

Once again, your software is your property and nobody suggests that you give that up for free, but the information in the IGC files of each individual pilot should be open and readable by the pilot if he chooses to do so. This would be the basis to provide such a service directly in platforms like the OLC or SkyLines.

Tobias,

we're actually discussing this internally.

Best
--Gerhard

Hi Gerhard,

that is very good news and I hope you take the right decision. Please let us know about it once you've decided.

Turbo

Gerhard,

Yesterday, Jim Staniforth ASW-27 JS and I, Walt Rogers Discus 2A WX, compared the performance of our PF Brick (V 2.40)during 11/2hrs of flying. See OLC posting for 10/29/2012. Overall, we were satisfied with performance. It correctly alarmed or warned in every case with 5-10 seconds notice in one case of a simulated head-on. Range was 2-3sm consistently and intermittently 5-6sm highly dependent on orientation of the gliders. Jim's ASW-27 antenna installation used the Peter Kelly technique placing the dipoles on the inside vertically within the nose. My Discus 2A used dipoles vertically installed (not touching panel cover or canopy) on the instrument cover.

QUESTION: I recorded the NMEA output of the PF with my LK8000 software. Do you know of any software or technique for playing back the NMEA output into the PC simulator of my LK8000 so that I can see the FLARM information and warnings?

Walt Rogers, WX

On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:08:16 AM UTC-7, wrote:
Once again, your software is your property and nobody suggests that you give that up for free, but the information in the IGC files of each individual pilot should be open and readable by the pilot if he chooses to do so. This would be the basis to provide such a service directly in platforms like the OLC or SkyLines.



Tobias,



we're actually discussing this internally.



Best

--Gerhard

Walt, thanks for the feedback!

The question below would rather be for LX. If you look for anything
specifically, you can send me the logs by email!

Best
--Gerhard
QUESTION: I recorded the NMEA output of the PF with my LK8000 software. Do you know of any software or technique for playing back the NMEA output into the PC simulator of my LK8000 so that I can see the FLARM information and warnings?

XCSoar simulation does that. I expected LK should do as well?
-kh

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