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On Sunday, March 3, 2013 7:30:55 AM UTC-7, Roberto Waltman wrote:
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Yeah, but he's not sitting straight in the 'cockpit' :-)

Slightly more seriously, there is a paper (which I can't find right now) reporting results obtained from tiny GPS loggers carried by Albatross. Their long-distance, non-stop foraging flights - some over 3000km - would make any OLC competitor cry. This made some wonder if there should be a special category on OLC for "non-human" aviators.

On Sunday, March 3, 2013 11:39:11 AM UTC-5, Bill D wrote:

Yeah, but he's not sitting straight in the 'cockpit' :-)

I noticed that too. She is obviously doing it right, so there must be some advantage. I wonder if this captures a typical albatross turn.

So maybe glider pilots are doing it wrong.

Find out - twist the cockpit section of the glider the next time you fly...

-John, Q3

On Sunday, March 3, 2013 12:52:18 PM UTC-5, son_of_flubber wrote:
On Sunday, March 3, 2013 11:39:11 AM UTC-5, Bill D wrote:

Yeah, but he's not sitting straight in the 'cockpit' :-)

I noticed that too. She is obviously doing it right, so there must be some advantage. I wonder if this captures a typical albatross turn.

So maybe glider pilots are doing it wrong.

Bill D wrote:
... there is a paper (which I can't find right now) reporting results obtained from tiny GPS loggers carried by Albatross.
Their long-distance, non-stop foraging flights - some over 3000km - would make any OLC competitor cry.

This one?
www.cebc.cnrs.fr/publipdf/2002/WSci295.pdf

"he movement of a male was recorded
for 20.2 hours at sea with the bird
spending 68.8% of its time in fligh
and covering a total distance of
1014 km (i.e., 996 km in flight and the
rest drifting).
The average flight speed was 71.6 km/h"
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I am going to sound awfully ignorant here, but are glider pilots supposed to be sitting strait up in the cockpit while turning? I have always cocked my head so as to be semi-close to level while in turns. (Motorcycle riders do it...) Is there some consensus among glider pilots that I don't know about that would suggest otherwise? I don't here much talk on this subject at all...but it is interesting.
~Travis


So maybe glider pilots are doing it wrong.

I am going to sound semi-ignorant here, but are glider pilots supposed to be sitting strait up in the cockpit while turning? I have always cocked my head so as to be semi-close to level while in turns. (Motorcycle riders do it...) Is there some consensus among glider pilots that I don't know about that would suggest otherwise? I don't hear much talk on this subject at all....but it is interesting.
~Travis

On Sunday, March 3, 2013 8:21:08 PM UTC-8, TravisBrown73 wrote:
I am going to sound awfully ignorant here, but are glider pilots supposed to be sitting strait up in the cockpit while turning? I have always cocked my head so as to be semi-close to level while in turns. (Motorcycle riders do it...) Is there some consensus among glider pilots that I don't know about that would suggest otherwise? I don't here much talk on this subject at all...but it is interesting.

~Travis





So maybe glider pilots are doing it wrong.

I've had instructors from both camps. Personal experience plus watching cockpit footage of some of the top aerobatic pilots leads me to believe there is some advantage to keeping your head oriented to the horizon. I'm curious as to other opinions / justifications.

Craig

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSxAAIYKPsM (watch the head gyrations at 1:50)

On 3/3/2013 8:35 PM, Craig Funston wrote:
On Sunday, March 3, 2013 8:21:08 PM UTC-8, TravisBrown73 wrote:
I am going to sound awfully ignorant here, but are glider pilots
supposed to be sitting strait up in the cockpit while turning? I
have always cocked my head so as to be semi-close to level while in
turns. (Motorcycle riders do it...) Is there some consensus among
glider pilots that I don't know about that would suggest otherwise?
I don't here much talk on this subject at all...but it is
interesting.

~Travis


So maybe glider pilots are doing it wrong.

I've had instructors from both camps. Personal experience plus
watching cockpit footage of some of the top aerobatic pilots leads me
to believe there is some advantage to keeping your head oriented to
the horizon. I'm curious as to other opinions / justifications.

Craig

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSxAAIYKPsM (watch the head gyrations
at 1:50)


I've always kept my head vertical so I can easily scan the horizon,
looking for other gliders and where I might want to go next. I thought
everybody did that!

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On 3/3/2013 9:27 PM, TravisBrown73 wrote:
I am going to sound semi-ignorant here, but are glider pilots supposed to
be sitting strait up in the cockpit while turning? I have always cocked my
head so as to be semi-close to level while in turns. (Motorcycle riders do
it...) Is there some consensus among glider pilots that I don't know about
that would suggest otherwise? I don't hear much talk on this subject at
all...but it is interesting. ~Travis


Ruh roh! This question may border on "religion." I mostly encountered people
from two camps, those who believe/say: a) "Keep your head in-line with your
spine"; and b) "Keep (as much as possible) your eyes parallel to the horizon."

I suppose there's a 3rd camp, too: do whatever's necessary and works for you
to maintain control and a good scan! I'm in Camp 3.

Bob W.