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Old July 15th 14, 02:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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This reminds me... Why does anyone think it's safe to spin a Puchcaz?
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Old July 15th 14, 03:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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The history of stall/spin accidents claiming experienced glider pilots has become a phenomenon which I believed is unequaled in any other aspect of modern aviation safety. Everyone is CONTINUALLY warned and it continues at an incredible rate!
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Old July 15th 14, 04:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Sunday, July 13, 2014 11:01:46 PM UTC-4, wrote:
A JS-1C crashed today near Houston. Pilot died.


Where can one find any information on the Truckee crash? Nothing jumps out from a Google search.
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Old July 15th 14, 04:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Prescott Soaring Facebook page has three photos of the aftermath.
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Old July 15th 14, 04:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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There is not to my knowledge any indication that the Truckee accident was a stall/spin. What little reporting I've seen points in a somewhat different direction. It's mostly speculation right now so take care.
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Old July 15th 14, 04:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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The Truckee crash was probably a combination of low approach combined with strong sink at the runway threshold which is above a 100 feet cliff. The stall was likely induced by the pilot in last moment attempt to pull up and clear the cliff, which most likely saved his life. It does not look like the glider itself was a factor in this crash.

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Old July 15th 14, 07:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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If you can't spell it, don't spin it.

At 01:51 15 July 2014, Kevin Christner wrote:
This reminds me... Why does anyone think it's safe to spin a Puchcaz?


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Old July 15th 14, 08:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 2:09:21 AM UTC+1, wrote:
On Monday, July 14, 2014 5:10:15 PM UTC-7, Ramy wrote:

The other one the same day at Truckee was not a fatality thank god. Pilot is recovering well.




That was at least the third crash of a JS1-C this year, the first was a fatality in South Africa back in January. The report I saw was sketchy, but highly experienced pilot (glider and otherwise), high winds, and likely stall/spin. I don't know how many have been made, so far, but while it may be a higher than usual accident rate, it could just be sad coincidence.



Where was the third JS1-C accident this year Marc?

There wasn't a high wind at the time of the Bloemfontein JS1-C fatality. I was launched just before the glider involved and there was a moderate headwind. I recorded 9 knots on my SeeYou thermal trace at the same time and close to overhead the accident which occurred while on aerotow at low altitude.

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Old July 15th 14, 09:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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OK, I'll bite.

Why do you think it's NOT safe to spin a Puchacz?

And do you think it IS safe to spin a K21?

KN

At 01:51 15 July 2014, Kevin Christner wrote:
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