Cameras in the Cockpit

There are a number of cameras coming to market that will be able to automatically edit video. They run continuously and detect when something interesting is happening, then edit out the rest. You can also talk to them while recording to make sure they save a key moment. This one looks promising:

https://getgraava.com
http://www.wired.com/2015/08/graava-...of-home-video/

It also does hyperlapse, which can make fast-forward sections of the flight appear super smooth.

It can also use a heart rate sensor to decide how to edit the video. That will make sure your crash footage is saved.

There are a number of cameras coming to market that will be able to automatically edit video. They run continuously and detect when something interesting is happening, then edit out the rest. You can also talk to them while recording to make sure they save a key moment. This one looks promising. I ordered one and will give it a try.

http://getgraava.com?ct-referral-code=VmJqzN8r

It also does hyperlapse, which can make fast-forward sections of the flight appear super smooth.

It can also use a heart rate sensor to decide how to edit the video. That will make sure your crash footage is saved.

On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 2:50:15 PM UTC-5, wrote:
There are a number of cameras coming to market that will be able to automatically edit video. They run continuously and detect when something interesting is happening, then edit out the rest. You can also talk to them while recording to make sure they save a key moment. This one looks promising. I ordered one and will give it a try.

http://getgraava.com?ct-referral-code=VmJqzN8r

It also does hyperlapse, which can make fast-forward sections of the flight appear super smooth.

It can also use a heart rate sensor to decide how to edit the video. That will make sure your crash footage is saved.


I've seen it all now. I wonder what Graava would think which part of soaring is boring. Kinda surprising that it does not post automatically.

Ensure you post a vid for us to review.

Forgot to put it on or forgot to open it? The chute I used had an
automatic opening device which used altitude and airspeed to pull the
ripcord.

On 1/13/2016 12:08 PM, WB wrote:
On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 10:58:07 AM UTC-6, wrote:
The presence of a camera changes pilot behavior. Truth. Hangies call it Kodak courage, skydiving has had lots of video cameras as training(and ego) tools since the big old expensive VHS camera days the danger is well known. Not saying don't do it, just saying there is a pile of bodies from camera related behavior changes and we need to be vigilant about the effect of having cameras on board, or pointing at us from the ground. Fun little experiment, get a big camera(doesn't have to work) and tripod have a friend set it up away from where gliders usually roll out and watch where pilots land. Like moths to a flame...
Puts me in mind of the skydiver at Louisburg, NC who got so distracted by his camera that he forgot his chute...

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Dan, 5J

"I am thinking something like a CVR but video which is always on during the flight and capture the whole flight or the last 30 minutes of pilot action and the outside could be very helpful for accident investigation. No need to publish or even save it if nothing went wrong. "

Absolutely not - unless completely voluntary in your private aircraft. We have fought this in the 121 world for decades. Voice recorders were agreed to with the strict stipulation that the actual recordings never are released to the public, yet there have be audio releases after some major accidents anyway. Widows are hearing their husbands last scream before impact. Just not right...

As for CFIs - back in the 80's we were told not to allow video cameras during training flights for liability reasons. Supposedly, somebody's widow used a video to claim the CFI didn't teach a maneuver properly. (I wish I had some actual facts on the case to share on this.)

FYI - The FAA is gathering information on videos and pictures being posted on the internet to determine if they need to start enforcing PED use regulations already in place. Check out http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/m...N_8900.292.pdf

Paul A.
Jupiter, FL

"I am thinking something like a CVR but video which is always on during the flight and capture the whole flight or the last 30 minutes of pilot action and the outside could be very helpful for accident investigation. No need to publish or even save it if nothing went wrong. "

Absolutely not - unless completely voluntary in your private aircraft. We have fought this in the 121 world for decades. Voice recorders were agreed to with the strict stipulation that the actual recordings never are released to the public, yet there have be audio releases after some major accidents anyway. Widows are hearing their husbands last scream before impact. Just not right...

As for CFIs - back in the 80's we were told not to allow video cameras during training flights for liability reasons. Supposedly, somebody's widow used a video to claim the CFI didn't teach a maneuver properly. (I wish I had some actual facts on the case to share on this.)

FYI - The FAA is gathering information on videos and pictures being posted on the internet to determine if they need to start enforcing PED use regulations already in place. Check out http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/m...N_8900.292.pdf

Paul A.
Jupiter, FL

On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 7:05:15 PM UTC-5, Paul Agnew wrote:
"I am thinking something like a CVR but video which is always on during the flight and capture the whole flight or the last 30 minutes of pilot action and the outside could be very helpful for accident investigation. No need to publish or even save it if nothing went wrong. "

Absolutely not - unless completely voluntary in your private aircraft. We have fought this in the 121 world for decades. Voice recorders were agreed to with the strict stipulation that the actual recordings never are released to the public, yet there have be audio releases after some major accidents anyway. Widows are hearing their husbands last scream before impact. Just not right...

As for CFIs - back in the 80's we were told not to allow video cameras during training flights for liability reasons. Supposedly, somebody's widow used a video to claim the CFI didn't teach a maneuver properly. (I wish I had some actual facts on the case to share on this.)

FYI - The FAA is gathering information on videos and pictures being posted on the internet to determine if they need to start enforcing PED use regulations already in place. Check out http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/m...N_8900.292.pdf

Paul A.
Jupiter, FL

Back in the 80's? Those cameras must have been the size of a boom box that probably throw off the CG. Anyone that could fly and use one of those cameras was quite the multi tasker.

That would not be a bad job to have. Fed benefits watching youtube videos shot from UAS's.

Occasionally students will pull out a camera that mounts on their head. I don't allow that since it could break a canopy (and maybe the student's head) in turbulence.

I wouldn't want someone putting a selfie-stick out the small window of one of our club ships because of the potential for cracking a canopy. We just replaced the rear canopy on one of our G-103s; cost $7 by the time it was all done. Insurance picked most of it up, which means we all pay for it.

Larry

I am aware of one accident caused by a dropped camera jamming behind the
stick. Both occupants of the glider were seriously injured.

At 05:13 14 January 2016, Larry Suter wrote:
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Larry

Weigh up the risk V's benefit.

I accept that there is the "Kodak courage" element, which is impossible to
to ignore, however, as long as you are aware of this and consider your
airman-ship before and during your flight, surely this to be manageable?

If you are concerned about your flights being watched and being prosecuted
for breaking the law... you shouldn't be breaking the law...simple.


Security - Ensure it is properly and securely mounted prior to take off.
Consideration should be paid to the effects on the air frame if outside,
and to pilot safety and security if inside.

I would be concerned about somebody's competence / confidence if the sole
reason for carrying a camera is so the investigators can watch the crash
after they are dead.

NOW consider a well secured camera with good edited footage placed in the
public domain and what impact that could have on the sport as a whole.

The opening credits to this movie are very relevant to this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ1jnQtCMiM