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At 11:44 08 October 2019, Tango Eight wrote:
On Tuesday, October 8, 2019 at 3:28:04 AM UTC-4, Bruce Hoult wrote: On Monday, October 7, 2019 at 5:07:25 AM UTC+13, Dan Marotta wrote: I can roll up into a 90 degree bank and, if I don't apply up or down=20 elevator, the plane won't turn.=C2=A0 The nose will simply knife downwa= rd.=C2=A0=20 So, am I clinging to something?=C2=A0 Think vectors and the vertical an= d=20 horizontal components of lift. =20 If you are flying straight and level and then roll into a 90 degree bank = while keeping the same elevator position then you will enjoy turning with 1= G of centripetal acceleration. Until the nose falls through. And then you'l= l enjoy a 1G pullout (more as the speed builds). =20 The only way you can *not* turn in that 90 degree bank is if you actually= moved the stick forward to the position that would give you a zero-G pusho= ver in level flight. You haven't tried explaining this to a student, have you? :-) Here's what really happens if you bank to 90 degrees while holding the elev= ator control in one place: the nose drops starts dropping the moment you b= egin to bank, the aircraft begins to accelerate and the g forces increase. = There is -no- period of time that "you will enjoy turning at 1G of centrip= etal acceleration." =20 =20 Langewiesche (Stick and Rudder) has it right. Think of the elevator contro= l as your angle of attack control. Chapter one, "How a wing is flown". Wh= at a great place to start the explanation of the art of flying. best, Evan Ludeman Funnily enough.... the assumption is made that the tail is acting with a 'downward' force, counterbalancing the mass ahead of the lift... with neutral stability, the elevator actually exerts no force in pitch. And it is also possible that the tail generates lift to support a rearward C of G !!! Banking to 90 deg and holding that angle changes the whole dynamic of the weight and lift distribution, the fin and rudder now come out to play.... !!! |
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