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You should look at a Piper PA-28-235 (Dakota or pathfinder). They have 84
gallon tanks, full fuel useful loads over 1000 lbs and are simple to maintain compared to a complex single. soxinbox wrote: I've flow 172s and 182s, but prefer the low wings ( just my preferance). I will be using this primarily for weekend getaways. In life I've found that it is often the road you take, not where you go, that is most important, but coffee house philosophy aside, I don't want to spend my whole weekend getting somewhere just to turn around and come back, so I want something that is resonably fast with a good range. Your advice on the avionics is well headed. I am only going to keep this plane until I get confortable enough to move up to a twin, so the resale value is important. This intemediate plane is to keep me from being one of those smoking holes in the ground that used to be someone who could afford more plane than they could fly. I am really looking for a TRUE four place plane ( useful load 1000) with a 700 mile range, flip flop nav/coms, autopilot, gps, and modern six pack panel. Without breaking the bank, this seams to be leading me to the debonair. Problem is There are few planes with this combination, and so I was seeing if it is feasable to not lose too much money on it. "soxinbox" wrote in message . 166... I am getting ready to buy my first plane. I am considering an early 60s bonanza or debonair. My first thought is, "don't." Not because these can't be perfectly good airplanes, but rather because I've found that airplane ownership is a complex business, and you're better off learning with something simple. Why not a good Skylane? For the same money you'll get a newer, likely lower-time bird, spend less on insurance and maintenance. The only downside being speed, which is in the 20-40 knot range depending on the two birds you're comparing. Do you need that extra speed or do you just want it? You may notice that good 182s cost a lot, comparable to or even exceeding Bonanzas, Mooneys, etc. that aren't all that much older/higher-time. There's a reason for this: smart pilots look at the Total Cost of Ownership. This is also why you can buy a big pressurized twin cessna with all the toys for not a lot more than a nice Bo. Of course that resale value will come back on the tail end, should you decide to step up. Of course, if you have money coming out the wazoo, then airplane ownership is easy. Find a decent mechanic (ask your type club) and when anything makes a funny sound, take it to him, and hand over your wallet. Be prepared for numbers that sound like the down payment on a car. If the thought of this concerns you, best stay away from an early 60s Beech retract. Some of these planes don't have a standard "six pack" panel layout, and I was wondering if anyone had an idea of how much this would cost to upgrade. I probably would update the radios at the same time, but I am really interested in the cost of the panel only. My rule of thumb here is to buy the plane you want, and upgrade the one you have. The reason is that while you might spend $50k upgrading the panel, you'll be lucky to get back more than $30k when you resell it. Let the previous owner eat that depreciation. The only exception to this would be a good plane with a high-time engine, because a much larger portion of the money you spend on the engine will be retained as value. Of course, if you already have a plane you like but just want newer radios, it can make sense to upgrade because you'll own them long enough to get your money's worth. But if you're buying the plane now, buy what you want the first time around. Best, -cwk. -- --Ray Andraka, P.E. President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc. 401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950 http://www.andraka.com "They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, 1759 |
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