Last Chance -- Free Beer in Iowa on Sunday!

On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 14:30:42 GMT, Larry Dighera wrote:

If they stop and have a few drinks, and spend the night,
unless they drink till the sun comes up they will
certainly be within the "bottle-to-throttle" rule.

And if they don't spend the night?

anf if they don't trink beer?

Are you providing complementary 8
hour accommodations for airmen who accept your free offer, so they can
responsibly comply with federal regulations?

why should he?

Or are you chumming for
lodgers with cheap beer, and charging them for a room once they're
stranded?


they can sleep whereever they want. Theay can also go downtown for the
reminder of the 8 hours.

What would you do if you became aware that one of the airmen who
imbibed your free beer, departed before 8 hours had elapsed, and
subsequently generated an NTSB report? Doesn't that sort of prudent
forethought occur to you? Or are you waaaay ahead of me?


So than this person is simply stupid. Is it Jay's fault? Would Jay be sued?
Maybe, because nobody want's to carry his own responsibility. You are
feeding into it.

There may be a fine old tradition of pilot drinking, but in these
times when the news media are whipping public GA terrorist hysteria,
imagine how your free beer offer (archived for eternity, and publicly
accessible worldwide) looks to the naive public. Do you think it
reflects positively on airmen? Is it your intent to publicly besmirch
our ranks?


Oh wait. Then beer is for sure a beverage for the terrorists. Everybody
trinking beer is a terrorist. Trinking beer and beeing a pilot .. well, you
should hang yourself. Immediately.

It's bad enough to be inundated daily with a mailbox full of ground
trees, and unsolicited e-mail will soon exceed the legitimate by a
factor of 1,000; now you've chosen to publicly soil the airman image
ostensibly to attract pilots to your business for personal gain thinly
disguised as free beer.

well, he lives there at the hotel. Sure, the argument for attracting people
to the hotel remains.

I'm offended, and I think you are foolish to
publicly put yourself, business, and family at risk of legal
liability.

yes, only in America.

You can call me self-righteous as a defense, but it doesn't change the
facts. The regulations are clear in requiring 8 hours of abstinence
from liquor before flying.


Jay, let everbody sign an agreement before you give them free beer that you
told them about the bottle or throttle 8 hours thing and that they keep you
free of any liability.

You are publicly offering pilots free
alcohol in a global forum.


maybe also non pilots will have the ability to get a free one.

If pilots accept your offer of a drink,
they're effectively grounded for 1/3rd of a day.


yes. and now?

The government and
news media are doing their best to portray GA as a terrorist's tool,
and airmen as blundering fools who flout federal attempts to establish
"security." Enthusiastically crying the delights of inebriation in a
public forum by airmen entrusted with the life-and-death safety of
their passengers and those countless numbers over whom they navigate,
is not smart.

maybe you should call the media to Jay's privat party.

I find your exploitative lack of discretion rude and offensive.

I know. I know. You're just trying to turn a buck and be congenial,
but think man. Think.

Yes, Jay mentions his hotel too often, agreed, but only because of fear
what the general public might think? Another freedom lost over there?

#m

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