Seneca down at Avalon

There isn't 2000' obstacle clearance on an approach. Terrain actually
slopes down from both ends of the runway. You have to screw this one up
pretty bad to hit anything.

Mike
MU-2


"Snowbird" wrote in message
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"R. Hubbell" wrote in message
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I wonder about having pax when shooting approaches. Seems like a pretty
big
distraction while learning. Do the FARs prohibit pax while IFR
training?

No, not at all, and in fact some viewpoints think it's a good
idea to take flight students of various flavors along, esp.
instrument students, both for learning by observation and as
an extra set of safety-pilot eyes.

Something strange about this, though -- are the TERPS really
right on this approach? Climb from 2,100 ft to 3,200 ft to
clear a 2,090 ft mountain -- shouldn't there be 2000 ft of
obstacle clearance over a mountain? Also is there an obstacle
DP for departure from that runway? Seems like going missed
after the MAP would require a non-standard climb gradient,
as would a departure?

Very sad accident

Cheers,
Sydney