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Old February 13th 04, 03:14 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Dennis O'Connor" wrote in message
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Basic rules for Class C is paragraph 3-2-4 of the AIM:
1. When controller responds WITH your tail number that is
clearance to enter the class C airspace..
2. Exception to this rule is if the controller says, "Remain outside the
class Charlie airspace and standby." he is expected/required to use that
exact phrase

Now, the rule not printed that I can see is the exact phrase for
cancelling the remain clear instruction... So, per the Class C rules when
the controller called you back the second time by 'tail number', and said,
"radar contact established", etc., that was again establishing radio

contact
(per rule #1) and absent instructions to the contrary you are now cleared
to enter the class C, and if he doesn't like your new heading, he will say
so...


Wrong. Once told to memain clear you must remain clear until the controller
issues an instruction that permits entry.



Therefore, you were cleared and did not bust any rules...
I would have preferred that he said, cleared to enter my airspace, or the
class c, etc., somewhere in his patter - obviously he understands rule #1
and expects you to also understand it...


Once told to remain clear, entering without an explicit instruction that
permitted entry, such as "proceed on course" or "fly heading xxx", would be
a violation of FAR 91.123(b).


 




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