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I need to take up one more point with your comments...
In principal, I do selfishly agree with you that American values of freedom are preferred to Radical Islamic values of, well, whatever Radical Islamic values are. However, I would tend to say that you are naive if you truly believe that innocents don't die in most wars. The difference is that the winner of the war generally doesn't talk about it because it is not honorable. And at least with respect to American History - we don't generally admire our heroes killing innocent people. Perhaps Radical Islamists will honor and recall the names of their "martyrs". More likely, the suicide bombers will be categorized as an attack method, and only the names of the political and military leaders will be remembered. However, I would categorically point out that innocents have died at the hands of Americans in many wars... And in other democratic countries, innocents have died during wars too... It's war. That's what happens. Of course, we've all heard about the innocent Vietnamese that were killed. But we lost that war, so the heroes aren't portrayed for their winning war tactics. One of the other posters brought up the Native Americans... Do you think any innocent Native Americans might have been killed back then? I haven't read much about it in the history books, so maybe it didn't happen... Do you think that no innocents died by American hands in World War II? How about at Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Do you think the A-Bomb of death distinguished between civilians and military personnel when it liquidated everyone there? The problem is that the terrorists today give themselves scary sounding names, pretend to be poorly organized, and hide their infastructure in the shelter of countries who claim to be our allies, like Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Morroco. Our problem is the same with Foreign Policy as it is with TFRs - sure the Prez will pull the trigger on Iraq - it's easy and he's just finishing Dad's work anyway. But if he's too afraid to pull the trigger on the nations who harbor and train our terrorists, he may as well give up now because it's just a big show to make people feel safe when they are not... "Jay Honeck" wrote in news:OZ_4c.11522$1p.210809@attbi_s54: I bet the British at the time would have disagreed with you. I am certain they believed the American rebels / freedom fighters were terrorists. Terrorists kill innocents. America's rebels fought the British for independence -- they didn't pointlessly blow up schools in far-flung, unrelated locales. Basically, when history finds a band of rebels or oppressed people who fought their way to freedom, they war is called a War of Independence. When they were suppressed, the war is called a rebellion, an uprising, or a failed coup-de-tat... To even suggest that El Queda operatives are fighting a "war of independence" is offensive. They are killing innocents around the world, for no apparent reason, with no goal other than terror and suffering in mind, all in the name of Allah. If anything can truly be classified as "insane," this is it. Perhaps the agenda of modern-day terrorists is not as clear as the agenda of the Independence fighters who fought for independence and control of their own countries... Their agenda is not freedom -- it is the downfall of Western civilization, in the name of God. |
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